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Offline lillysdad621

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to all you tf97 non believers...
« on: July 02, 2009, 02:19:28 PM »
i picked up a tf97 (qb36-1 for those not fluent in techforce) in .177; i always liked the carbine size and the underlever. took it home and took it apart. gave it a good tune and lube and then run about 100 shots of scattered pellets. then i tried all kinds of pellets and found that it loves the gamo hunters (7.5)... weird... and then i run a string of 10 pellets 3 times to see an average fps and i came up with a solid 628 fps. i tried also crosman premieres ( only pellet that would somewhat group, besides the gamos) and i got 603 fps. I took all the sights off and mounted a compact rws 4x32. It fits awesome and ends about 1 inch behind the loading port. I love the heaviness off such a compact rifle. It seems pretty rugged. The best groups i get are quarter sized at 20 yards. not 10 meter olimpic rifle, but just got back from its first foray into the woods. 15 minutes and took a pigeon at 25 yards. aimed at head but went in at the bottom of the neck. 1 clean kill. this one is perfect for the war against the starlings...
If you have one of these... do not give up. they seem to loosen up a bit after 250 shots or so. I'll keep you guys informed. And tonight i'll tear into the trigger. not crisp and weighs a ton. gotta see if i can help it...

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RE: to all you tf97 non believers...
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2009, 03:50:44 PM »
Sounds good Gabe,,,, I may have to check one of these out   :)

Jeff
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Re: to all you tf97 non believers...
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2009, 06:18:55 AM »
I'll second that Gabe. Bought a .22 version ( 550's to 575's with FTS's and RWS SD's) from Ronbeaux and shot the heck out of it. Then gave it to my Dad. He's already killed 4 nuisence squirrel's with it. Asked him if he wanted me to scope it, and he answered,...."What the #&ll do I need a scope for?!?!?!?". OK Pops,..it's your gun now. Very accurate once you get the irons properly lined up. Glad things are progressing in a positive way for you and the TF-97!!!!! tjk
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Re: to all you tf97 non believers...
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2009, 08:44:49 AM »
i gotta say, the more i shoot it the more i like it and the smoother it gets. the only noise it makes is a distant spring noise. today i was punishing a can (the bottom if it at least) at 42 yards and i only had to aim halfway between the x and the thick of the bottom post (duplex) on the 4x32. it hit 9 out of 10 shots constantly, 5 times in a row. Nope, no hole in oneyet but it does hit the 1 inch circle with no problem at that distance. it has graduated to hunter at 25 yards with 2 headshots. By the way, the gamo hunters are not swayed by the wind as much. I took the same shots with my AA s200 and crow magnums and i kept seeing the pellet veer with the wind... strange. not with the tf97 and the gamos...

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Re: Latest body count is,......
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2009, 02:19:41 AM »
now up to nine squirrel. Talked to the old man last night, and he's bagged five more in the last week with the 97. Pictures you ask,....Hell no. Being a 'law abiding citizen' he doesn't want any evidence of it. I said to him, it ain't illegal if they are being a nuisance or causing property damage! Shaking my head!!! Mom's happy though, the song bird population is rising,...and keeping her happy and off Dad's back takes precedence over everything else,...including snap-shots. That poor man!!LOL's, tjk
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Re: Latest count on my tf97- 22
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2009, 03:09:07 PM »
Just came in tonight my Tf97 -22cal.
I've just got her out of the box ,spent some time getting thr sticker off the stock Wow what glue! Got it through compasseco
With the 4X32 scope I;ve just put lockthigt on
all 3 screws. Hope to get some shootin in tomarrow :) . everything looks ok sofar ?
I was reading the Tesh Force Limited Warranty!
as much as I can make out ! For $25.00 charge- I get nothing?
I thank this one was wrote out by a Lawyer??
It list everything on the airgun as (not covered)
Yep they perdy got you Not covered ?
but got your $25.00 bucks :o .
(as with the last ones I ordered there is some Rust in places / & very sharp parts all over,
debure & Debure..Will see how it goes!!
Ron

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I really like mine (.177)
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2009, 12:38:12 AM »
Got it from Compasseco a month or so ago (less than 48 hours after ordering).
The wood was much better quality than I expected, and a lot beefier than the old stock photos would indicate.  Nice checkering, even if it is pressed in.

The metal was really clean, except for a filthy barrel, and the internals were almost completely dry.  That's a big switch from just a few years ago.

My -97 has a lot of spring-twang/buzzzzzzz, but I haven't opened it up yet.  I want to shoot a couple tins through to wear the trigger in.  The rumors are true, the trigger is NOT great; but it improves over time.  I still think the Gamo triggers are worse, though.
I don't care for the auto safety...

Easy to cock, not too loud, not too long...  I think this will be a keeper.
I'm getting close to the point (2 tins) where I can open it up and lube it to get rid of the spring noise :)

I was surprised that mine liked Gamo Hunters, too.  Those are usually one of my "break-in" pellets:  not expected to perform too well, just to wear a new gun in.  Mine  also likes RWS Hobbys.

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Re: to all you tf97 non believers...
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2009, 01:29:39 AM »
Rontier...I remember that glue. I tried a few things and I believe it was olive oil that worked best...either that or dish soap (straight). In any case, once I figured out which to use came off pretty easily just rubbing with a towel dipped in solution.
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: to all you tf97 non believers...
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2009, 01:33:46 AM »
Shot my TF97 for about 6 months before I decided I wanted a little more. I wish they'd come up with a different loading method. If you don't like sticking your fingers in the breach, it is a little bit of a pain. However, that said, I shot mine again just the other day. OMG -- is it ever easy to cock! Never tuned it and it has a little buzz/twang and diesel. But I'm also not rushing to get rid of it. Maybe I'll chrony along side the Walther Force 1000 this weekend...
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

Offline lillysdad621

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Re: to all you tf97 non believers...
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2009, 02:30:26 AM »
mine in .177 is awesome... got about 2000 shots thru it. the trigger got a bit smoother, but still a hard break. It is still very quiet, with a spring noise compared to a PCP hamer bounce. mine has a gamo 3-9x40 scope, zeroed at 20 yards and is a penny hole gun. I could shoot 500 shots and they will all fit under a penny. very consistent with the hobbies, at high 600s, low 700s. great starling gun.

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Re: to all you tf97 non believers...
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2009, 03:41:04 AM »
Pictures please!!

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Re: to all you tf97 non believers...
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2009, 04:16:37 AM »
I had a 97 in 22 cal it was a very nice accurate gun the biggest problem way the plastic base for the rear sight after cranking it down it bent and cracked the base of the sight I fixed it by making a new base out of aluminum. Other than that it was very good by the way the easyest way to get the label off is with wd 40 sprayed on and let set a little while works on all labels very good. howie
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Re: to all you tf97 non believers...
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2009, 12:03:59 PM »
I'm a Believer now that I got to shoot her.
Well not so a bad gun??
mine is 22 cal & with out the scope on yet ! it's a penny shooter from 15 yards , Wow I'm
shocked I can see the Iron sight's .All my gun's have Scopes on them for my bad old eye  sight.
I shot 15-20 times and Iron sight's, at the end I was hitting them under a 1/2"Group. For me that is very good, It's a Keeper, just my shot on the TF97.

There are things I'ed like to make better ?
But that's true with all my air guns?? . :o

this in 22cal would make a good Hunter,
& the 117 also, judging on accuracy of it.

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Re: to all you tf97 non believers...
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2009, 01:24:04 PM »
yes, the .22 would make agreat backyard safari gun. They get smoother the more you shoot it. Remember to tighten all the bolts and screws. then clean off all he excess mistery oil from the breech and piston, as well as the chamber, or it will diesel for 100s of shots. The trigger?... it will get smoother, grittiness will wear out, but it will still weight a ton. It is a nice little shooter and i think it's heftiness is what makes it so smooth. I have not shot mine with open sight since new... maybe i'll go back to that to try something different...

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Re: to all you tf97 non believers...
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2009, 01:32:50 PM »
I think the 97 is one of those you at least got what you paid for guns. After the at home de burr and lube tune using the stock parts it's not a bad gun. It's a good shooter at about ten yards and seems to like the Peak brand pellets that Archer sells. At ten yards it shoots nickel size groups. Here are a couple of pic's.
W