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Offline geiger

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corporate culture and how it's destroying your/our youth
« on: August 21, 2009, 11:18:17 AM »
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2330629461681402395

if you're into this it's a must watch. it's basically that a few corporations run the whole show and exploit kids and parents further on.
basically it's like communist propaganda just from the opposite side.

a message to parents...please install brains in your kids so that rubbish like this doesn't poison them.

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Re: corporate culture and how it's destroying your/our youth
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2009, 11:24:09 AM »
I TRIED TO WATCH BUT I SUFFER FROM ADHD..ITS AN HOUR!!!..ILL TRY IN INSTALLMENTS.. :)
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RE: corporate culture and how it's destroying your/our youth
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2009, 10:36:52 PM »
Our culture is inundated with propaganda and marketing, and not just of the corporate variety.  It seems to me that the marketing done by the big corporations is as much or more of a response to the current teen culture versus the current teen culture being a response to marketing, though.  But no doubt, the two are intimately linked.  In today's information overloaded society, there is no insulation, whatsoever, from full frontal assault "marketing".  And by the time your kids are teenagers, they have long since formed the cognitive skill sets, values and ethics that will filter how they respond.

It isn't corporate culture that is destroying your/our youth, though (IMO) -- it is a general lack of any other substantive culture to fill the void, and a vacuous culture where kids are raised and educated without sound moral values, and without the ability for critical thinking and sound decision making.  The blame for that resides primarily with parents and our current public education system -- not corporations.  Don't blame the predator for going after the easiest prey.

Corporate culture?  Corporations don't have culture.  Corporations respond to, and yes, "exploit" (some might say profit from) cultural weaknesses and trends.  Air rifle manufacturers exploit my love for gadgetry and shooting.  Drug dealers exploit the junkies insatiable habits.  Brokerage companies exploit the desire to grow wealth. Corporations exploit people's desire to be healthy. . . or to look good . . . or to grow hair . . . or to be ready when the time is right . . . or to play the next cool video game . . . or to have the best laptop computer or fastest car.   Politicians exploit people's needs and desires -- to have a cleaner planet . . . or to save the baby seals . . . or to prevent global warming . . . or to have better health care  . . . or to improve education.  Don't for a moment think we adults are exploited any less than our kids.

You are absolutely right, though. Don't want to be exploited?  Better start thinking critically and asking what is behind the message every time you are being "sold" something, commercial or political --  to what purpose?, who benefits?, what are the alternatives?, how is that message biased and why? (it is always biased).


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RE: corporate culture and how it's destroying your/our youth
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2009, 06:55:16 AM »
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TCups - 8/22/2009  3:36 AM

Our culture is inundated with propaganda and marketing, and not just of the corporate variety.  It seems to me that the marketing done by the big corporations is as much or more of a response to the current teen culture versus the current teen culture being a response to marketing, though.  But no doubt, the two are intimately linked.  In today's information overloaded society, there is no insulation, whatsoever, from full frontal assault "marketing".  And by the time your kids are teenagers, they have long since formed the cognitive skill sets, values and ethics that will filter how they respond.


the first part of the video goes into this topic of who is influencing who

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It isn't corporate culture that is destroying your/our youth, though (IMO) -- it is a general lack of any other substantive culture to fill the void, and a vacuous culture where kids are raised and educated without sound moral values, and without the ability for critical thinking and sound decision making.  The blame for that resides primarily with parents and our current public education system -- not corporations.  Don't blame the predator for going after the easiest prey.


very true. i don't have kids, but i've heard it's not easy to raise kids when they are bombarded with stupid stuff like that.

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Corporate culture?  Corporations don't have culture.  Corporations respond to, and yes, "exploit" (some might say profit from) cultural weaknesses and trends.  Air rifle manufacturers exploit my love for gadgetry and shooting.  Drug dealers exploit the junkies insatiable habits.  Brokerage companies exploit the desire to grow wealth. Corporations exploit people's desire to be healthy. . . or to look good . . . or to grow hair . . . or to be ready when the time is right . . . or to play the next cool video game . . . or to have the best laptop computer or fastest car.   Politicians exploit people's needs and desires -- to have a cleaner planet . . . or to save the baby seals . . . or to prevent global warming . . . or to have better health care  . . . or to improve education.  Don't for a moment think we adults are exploited any less than our kids.


yes. but when you leave someone to get that powerful it ends up affecting every aspect of your life. ads and the consumerist culture is just invading every nook and cranny it can get into (politics, private life, health,...).like nothing is sacred. i think it's a consequence of hardcore capitalism. you're not that free if you have only 2 or 3 choices to choose from and they all work in sync.


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You are absolutely right, though. Don't want to be exploited?  Better start thinking critically and asking what is behind the message every time you are being "sold" something, commercial or political --  to what purpose?, who benefits?, what are the alternatives?, how is that message biased and why? (it is always biased).



and that's why i take my hat off to any parents that raised or is trying to raise a critically thinking person. but that ain't happening too often nowadays.


you older generations might had to deal with Orwellian type of repression, but today it seems we're becoming the Brave new world.

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Re: corporate culture and how it's destroying your/our youth
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2009, 12:10:20 PM »
Life's a B*tch huh??? ...

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Re: corporate culture and how it's destroying your/our youth
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2009, 12:20:20 PM »
yes, but it doesn't have to be this kind of b*tch

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Re: corporate culture and how it's destroying your/our youth
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2009, 01:15:31 PM »
What authors do you read?

Ever  read  . . .

Whitaker Chamgers "Witness"
An excellent early history of Communism and Socialism in the USA and how they controlled much of the news media  and unions.  All later verified by the release of the Vernona secrets when the USSR collapsed. The Rosenbergs and Alger Hiss were Communist spies.

Richard Rhodes "Dark Sun - The Making of the Hydrogen Bomb"
Read a few of the book reviews here:  http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Sun-Making-Hydrogen-Bomb/dp/0684824140
Did you ever know that an atomic bomb detonated in San Francisco, but wasn't armed, so it didn't go critical?  Or that the Roosevelt & Truman supported the USSR's early atomic programs including supplying them with enriched uranium fuel?  Very interesting stuff about Senator Joseph McCarthy too.

Freedrich Hayek "The Road to Serfdom"
Here are a few of quotes from his writing you might enjoy:  http://homepage.eircom.net/%257Eodyssey/Politics/Liberty/Hayek.htm

Or how about Robert Bork's "The Tempting of America"
A history of judicial activism in the US Supreme court and the effects it has had on the Constitution and the American political system.

If you want to think critically about our current culture and politics, then you have to think critically about our past history and its consequences and how we got here.

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Re: corporate culture and how it's destroying your/our youth
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2009, 12:17:53 PM »
all of those point are valid in their own regard but that's not so relevant in this specific debate.
from what i can remember the US went downhill after WW2, i read that the end of WW2 was the birth of consumerist culture. along with suburbia an all that.

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Re: corporate culture and how it's destroying your/our youth
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2009, 12:34:59 PM »
Consumerism and suburbia America = America going "downhill"?  I think not.

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Re: corporate culture and how it's destroying your/our youth
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2009, 03:28:50 AM »
of course it depends from what viewpoint you're looking. to me it is