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Huge implications, - Cross your fingers, ...
« on: October 01, 2009, 09:27:25 AM »


Supreme Court to Hear McDonald v. Chicago -- Monumental Second Amendment Case

Wednesday, September 30, 2009

Fairfax, Va. -- The National Rifle Association applauds the Supreme Court's decision, announced today, to hear the landmark Second Amendment case of McDonald v. Chicago. The case will address the application of the Second Amendment to the states through either the Due Process clause or the Privileges or Immunities clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The case has major implications for the legality of restrictive gun laws not only in Chicago, but also in other cities across the United States. The decision to hear the case, which will be argued later this year or early next year, gives Second Amendment advocates across America hope that this fundamental freedom will not be infringed by unreasonable state and local laws.

"The Second Amendment applies to every citizen, not just to those living in federal enclaves like Washington D.C. In the historic Heller decision, the Supreme Court reaffirmed what most Americans have known all along -- that the Second Amendment protects an individual right and that it applies to all Americans. The government should respect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens throughout our country, regardless of where they live, and NRA is determined to make sure that happens," said Wayne LaPierre, NRA executive vice president.

In the June ruling that the Supreme Court will now review, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit held that the Second Amendment does not apply to state and local governments. That opinion left in place the current ban on the possession of handguns in Chicago.

However, the Seventh Circuit incorrectly claimed it was bound by precedent from 19th century Supreme Court decisions in failing to incorporate the Second Amendment. Many legal scholars believe that the Seventh Circuit should have followed the lead of the earlier Ninth Circuit panel decision in Nordyke v. Alameda County, which found that those cases don't prevent the Second Amendment from applying to the states through the Due Process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. To the contrary, a proper incorporation analysis supports application of the Second Amendment to the States.

"It is an injustice that the residents of Chicago continue to have their Second Amendment rights denied," said Chris W. Cox, NRA’s chief lobbyist. "It’s time that the fundamental right of self-defense is respected by every jurisdiction throughout the country. It is our hope that the Supreme Court will find, once and for all, that all law-abiding Americans have the God-given, constitutionally-protected right of self-defense, no matter what city, county or state they call home."

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RE: Huge implications, - Cross your fingers, ...
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 10:15:44 AM »
Can't imagine living in Chicago and not being able to defend myself in the murder capital of the USA.

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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2009, 10:37:32 AM »
Depending on the outcome, - we could all end up living in our own small Chicago. - This will either prevent "local authorities" from enacting "local gun control" laws/regulations or give all local authorities nationwide that ability. A lot depends on the outcome here, - a REAL lot.

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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2009, 10:50:34 AM »
Local authorities in SC are far different from more "enlightened" communities with liberal majorities, thank God.  But I understand the point and watch, as you do, with great interest in the outcome.

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Re: Huge implications, - Cross your fingers, ...
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2009, 11:35:52 AM »


Being in a state of mass confusion, where the discharge of an air gun is considered discharging a firearm, I will light a candle, flashlight and barn fire, and Pray that this goes our way !!!!!



When I bought my house here 30 years ago, I could hunt in my back yard. Owning Firearms was looked at as being a responsible citizen. Now, your a gun nut ! A Kook !



Over the years, being a gunowner thatproudly displays myNRA LIFE MEMBER Decals, neighbors come to me during times of civil unrest and questionable future occurrences, and tell me that they know where to come if"trouble occurs". I tell them that I will teach them to be prepared and defend themselves, but that I will only accept one family into my home, no others !!!! They still think that if all else fails, they can all come to me for safety ! But that will not happen !



They are afraid of you 97% of the time, and want to be with you when they are more afraid of the world outside than they are of you ? Go Figure !



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Re: Huge implications, - Cross your fingers, ...
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2009, 11:45:33 AM »
Ya' gotta be careful with "interpreting" what politicians say - vs - what the actually mean & intend to do. Unfortunately we here in southern N.H. have been completely over-run with Mass. folks trying to escape Mass. taxes & politics. ... Our present Congressional character, Hodes, - knows in a state like N.H. he can't run on gun control. So, on the Second Amendment, he ran on "folks shouldn't have to worry about Washington" taking their firearms away - put a lot of folks at easy. It shouldn't have, - he believes in "divide & conquer" - let a zillion local communities deal with the Second Amendment & enact any gun laws they want. ... That's why this case is so vital - to all of us, NOT just that guy in Chicago.

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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2009, 01:03:39 PM »
I've got relatives in Chicago and New York city......I always wonder why 2 of the most crime infested cities in the U.S.....and their citizens are not allowed to have any firearms to protect themselves.  I think the govt'.....every level.....are protecting the criminals more than the good citizens.
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RE: Huge implications, - Cross your fingers, ...
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2009, 03:07:55 PM »
Maybe it is the murder capitol because law abiding people can't defend themselves......or is that injecting logic in a situation long proven to not allow logic....

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2009, 05:50:31 PM »
Well, in Chicago, the criminals ARE the elected government.  Maybe that's why.

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Re: Huge implications, - Cross your fingers, ...
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2009, 11:18:16 PM »
Gentlemen, - this isn't about Chicago, or New York or Boston, - it's about all of US!!!