Light Weight Wood/Synthetic Gun

[daveshoot]

Excuse me, but there is a rifle that fits these criteria for well under $300, and that is the Baikal MP513.

It is wood stocked, very lightweight, quite accurate, and very powerful. If you can find a .22 in stock anywhere, it will kill the heck out of anything the other brands will, at a savings of 1.5-3 lbs. and about $140.

It was this combination of features that led me to it in the first place, emphasis on the weight, for a field "carry piece".

The downsides are a utilitarian finish, non-adjustable trigger, and harsh shot cycle. I foundtheriflewell worthwhile ($160) and the trigger smoothed with use.

My .02.

[shadow]

The 1250 Hunter is the older version of the Extreme but the actions are the same. The 1250 Hunter is what I have, English version called the Royal. There's some great advise mentioned above but if your looking for Magnum power in a .22 springer it's gonna come with some heft. My big 1250.22 does have some weight including the big BSA scope on her but I have gotten use to hauling her around and cocking her is great exercise at 58lbs cocking force. Another thing to think about is what you'll be hunting with your shooter, small game like nutters, bird's etc.. My 1250 is mainly used for larger game like Bandit's, Country Rat's, G-hog's and if the my hunting luck hold's out I can bag a Yote or Fox this winter. You don't need a Magnum for small critters, a good accurate non magnum .22 would do just fine for them. Ed

[North Pack]

Exactly MB, - I have a Quest 800X with a GRT-III trigger and a Turbo-Tune by Gene. Great wood stock, - and one damn nice gun to shoot, very accurate - a pleasure to own. I would recommend one to anyone looking for a .22 springer.

[onemountain]

Oh lord do I feel dumb. How could I forget the MP513? And I've forgotten about it in a number of recent threads too

I came really close to buying one in .22, and when I was trying to decide I think I literally found and read every reference to it on the GTA using the search function; I must've read vinceb's reviews 4 times each. Thank you Dave for reminding us of its existence..

And IIRC, it comes with some parts too, right? And doesn't EAA have good parts support anyway too? Though I also seem to recall it someone saying that it's a pain to reassemble if taken down for a tune.

KK, the MP513 is listed at Pyramyd as being 6.94 lbs.

And holy cow!! $239 now?! And an estimated in-stock date of 11/30, and we all know how PA tends to sneakily push back in-stock dates.

It looks like it's still $160 at Compasseco, but .177 only over there. I don't see it in .22 anywhere, and it seems like not a lot of people are carrying it at all anymore

forgetting stuff like this is why I say I'm unreliable lol

[KK0605]

What is the difference between the Quest 1000x and the 800x? Also, in Vinceb's review of the MP 513, ( http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5795&posts=8#M43389 ) he said that the TF89 would be better overall. And I would love to nail coons and such. That is why I liked the 1250. But weight is still plaguing me.

So far, my TF89 still seems to be good. Middle weight, good power, and with either a new stock or truck bed liner, (anyone know much about that) it could be durable.

[onemountain]

The Quest 1000 is the .177, the 800 is the .22. The ones with 'X' tacked on the end are ones that come with scopes.

[KK0605]

OK thanks. So MP 513 or TF89....... Light and harsh or heavier and smooth..... I like sythetic though..... but that is an odd sci-fi sorta gun....... but it is super accurate.....

[onemountain]

K.K., I've lost track: what airguns do you currently own (if any)?

[RedFeather]

I don't think I saw mentioned the Shadow 1000 in .22.  For a break barrel, they are nice guns and can be easily tuned.  Still come on the market from time to time for about half of your $300 price.  Leaves enough for a scope and mounts.

[KK0605]

I don't! See, in my first ever thread ( Best BAM (now Chinese) Gun for my needs) I admitted that it will be my second ( I have had a Airmaster 77.... Not the best gun to get you in love with airguns) air gun. I have hunted small game with every thing from .22 to .410. to a bow. I also hunt big game with a bow, but that isn't important. I have read a ton, so I do know enough to get started. At Pyramyd, the MP 513 .22 is $240. TF89 is only $150. So, if Vinceb thinks that the TF89 will be better overall, then the TF89 seems like the perfect gun. But, not having used one, I still need help.

Hope that helped

[larspawn]

Okay, unorthodox but why not just buy a B25 with 3-9x40 scope for $140 from bestairgun.com and a $8 can of bedliner.  Scuff paint and there you are.  Still lightweight but not a hollow sound amplifier like lots of syn stocks.  The bedliner will help with the waterproofing but more so to hide any future dings.  If you get a few shoot some more bedliner.

The b25 in .22 is more than enough for hunting.

My 2 cents...

Andy Wong aka larspawn

[KK0605]

I have seen the B25. It is another option. The bedliner sounds like a good idea.

[onemountain]

Or for that matter the B25S, same price, synthetic stock (assuming it's not one of the noise/vibration amplifying ones)

[KK0605]

So, after some reading, whatever gun I happen to get I am going to bed liner it. So, now that looks arn't a problem, and it will be water proof, its all about performance. I can get a better deal on whatever gun if it has a damaged stock anyway. Though, the TF89 does look great.... The MP 513 would look better black (IMO) so it would work also.

[onemountain]

I wasn't questioning your ability to hunt or shoot or learn anything like that; I just literally have lost track of who has what. I got confused when you said "my TF89" at some point. Now that I think about it I've actually gotten about 9 hours sleep over three nights; I'm just not so lucid as I should be, that's all.

I can't believe the MP513 is that high over at PA, at one point the thing was about $130! I guess the dollar really is pretty weak right now..