Read about...Late model Gamo's

[gamo2hammerli]

The laws in Italy concerning airguns are more strict than Canada's.....for now. We can buy <500fps airguns without papers off the shelf. For anything over 500fps, that's another story...Firearms Safety courses must be taken and passed, PAL (Procession and Acquisition License) needed (Process will require Municipal, Provincial and Federal law enforcement depts to check if you have a violent criminal history...if you do, you're not going to get the PAL). The >500fps airguns are considered FIREARMS.....so a trigger lock is necessary for them.

For long arms i.e shotguns, real rifles and air rifles we do not need papers to move them around....only a trigger lock, gun case and ammunition separated from them. For handguns.....lot's of paperwork....and papers to move them around.

[jml]

God bless the USA!

[jimmo68]

well you can get a airrifle  that shoots up to 309 ft per sec. but as i said thier strict on maney things . you can't shoot at any type of animals meaning birds ,squrils or any other type of critter. only for shootimg targets , if you wan't to shoot critters  you need to get a hunting licence . if caught shooting animals it's  in court that you settle the facts with fines and alot of them. i got some land in the mountains about 40 km from where i live so i go there to use the cfx. as  you seen before even the prices don't joke around here either.i went to the gun shop where i bought the cfx and told then that the scope goes of sight very often  , so they told me that the gun isn't a high power gun and theres no way the recoil gets near to damaging the scope. and that i have to bring it in to get a another block mounted on the scope rail  behind the scope so it doesn't move .  i don't think it moves but think that the gamo scope  4 x32 is just defective. get it zeroed take some shots thier perfect in center then they go 1" up to sides and all around the center  just goes anywhere but center . get it zeroed then jaust as before  centers few times then goes looney ??
 by the way i'm from canada b.c then 20 years ago transfered to italy .

[jimmo68]

sorry for the stupidity but what is the differnce form cfx and cfx combo ??

[gamo2hammerli]

Use a pencil to draw some lines on the receiver to mark the spot where the scope mount rests.  Also on the scope tube where the mount rings clamp.  Shoot about 20 shots and see if the mount or scope moves or not.  Don't know about the CFX and CFX Combo....but I would think the Combo would include a scope mount and scope with the rifle.

By the way, alot of shop owners don't know about the double recoil of airguns (Spring piston guns).....they think any scope can handle their recoil.  I've had that experience myself.

[jimmo68]

ok i will try that as soon as we pass throuh these holidays first ,  have to go the house in mountains to try it .   the bang when it's fired is rather loud is that normal  , don't here spring vib but a firecracker bang like sound .has power shoot a piece of  board about 2cm thick at a distance 15-20 meters went right thouugh . (compensated press boardchips ) not solid wood , but happy the same it's  good enough for me .so many questions to ask cause i have little sxperience !!!. last and least and won't bother you til next year ok i promise .i saw a cfx with the stock really shiney like as it if war varnished with clear coat  but read that it was only polished with wax , what's your word on this ,  is it better or does it only look better but handle worst for shooting (slippage)when shooting.
 ok as promised no more questions til next year . have a happy and a  good new year to everyone .

[gamo2hammerli]

Any smoke still coming out of the muzzle after the shot....if there is....that means there's still some lubricant that's in the air chamber and causing detonation. I hope you didn't shoot the PBA Raptor pellets that usually come with Gamo air rifles.....they're too light and will ruin your gun....also the lightness of the pellets will cause poor accuracy. Those are the pellets that's supposed to give your 1250fps.

If you've used some or all of those PBA Raptor pellets.....they most likely damaged the pistol seal. They are too light and the piston would have been slamming onto the end of the receiver...maybe causing the seal to crack or chipped. Which lets some lubricant to leak into the air chamber and causing the "big bang"....and since there might be a crack on the piston seal....you won't get consistant air pressure causing bad shots.

If you didn't abuse your CFX....I would think the piston seal should still be in perfect condition. No cracks or tears on the seal so no oils will leak into the air chamber. Hopefully when they put the rifle together, they didn't damage the seal.

I don't own a CFX so I don't know how loud it is.....but I think their powerplant are the same as the Shadow, Big Cat, Viper and Whisper. I also don't know how loud the Shadows are, but I've a Big Cat and she's loud.....after over 3700 shots now....and she's still loud. So I'm thinking the Shadows and CFX's would be loud. My Viper have a bull barrel and the Whisper have it's "muffler" so both those air rifles are quiet. Hope this helps.

[jimmo68]

hi
 ok to start HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!!!!  . well when i bought run rifle they gave ge some itallian pellets to shoot  . very light and they are for air pistols nor air rifle! they look somthing like this but have a the name  fiocchi  , they have a flat head and clearly indicates for air pistol .
http://store.armeriacaspani.it/aria_compressa/piombini/rws_geco.html .
 i stopped using thoes and now i use jsb exact or hn baracuda they seem to get much closer . staying in the 7 to 9.5 grains as min and max weight .got H&n Baracuda , JSB  EXACT , MARKSMAN not so good ,  and then  FIOCCHI air pistol pellets that they gave me with the gun. find that the jsb are good and the H&N also are good ,  the others are  flyers. what else do you recomend to use . got some BIGBOYS  but they are too heavy , not good for the rifle so don't know what to do with them now . i bought a one piece scope mount and as i said in the previous post a bushnell 3-9 x 32 scope  , but still waiting for it to get here . (shipping takes awhile) . can't do any upgrades in power cause if the cops test the gun it's to jail i go !!!!!!!
7.5 joules max !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a bummer ha . at 20 meters  pellet goes through wood chip board 2 cm thick  ,  that normal ?
 should it be more powerful than  that ? i don't know cause the last air rifle i got was at least 20 years ago in canada ( lived in vancouver  back then). so i'm leaving you with alot of questions today  ,  i saw that  you talked about the muzzle on the rifle , mine has it as well but don't have the experience to know if the noise is a lot or just right .
 anyway    HAPPY NEW YEAR   HOPE THIS ONE IS BETTER THAT THE LAST .     CIAO   MEANS  BYE  BYE .

[gamo2hammerli]

I have never shot or bought JSB Exact pellets....I believe they come in different grain weights. Almost all airgunners say they are very accurate. The H&N Baracuda....I don't know which model you used...mine are the .177 Diabolo Baracuda and they weight 10.65gr. A little too heavy for spring piston airguns some people say. The Beeman Kodiaks are the same as the Baracuda. I usually don't shoot them....I onlyuse one air rifle to shoot the Kodiaks because they are very accurate....and I use them only for the GTA Target Shooting Matches. When I shoot for fun I switch back to .177 Crosman Premier Hollow Points (7.9gr).

I don't know what kind of speed a 7.5 joules airgun can give you. But my .177 Gamo Viper is shooting Crosman 7.9gr. pellets at around 875fps....and 10.65gr. Diabolo Baracuda pellets around 790fps. I have shot at solid wood (Unfortunately I don't know what kind) at 30 yards distance and the Kodiaks went in 1/4" plus the length of the pellets.

[FrenchCousin]

Ha!  Vive la France, where you can go up to 10 joules (7.375 foot pounds) with no license, and then above 10 joules with a hunting license (not hard to get, judging by some of the guys tramping the fields around here).  It ain't the US, nor even the UK (up to 16 joules, currently allowed if I understand correctly), but it's okay.  And if you use a round of brie for a target, you can make your own "Swiss cheese" for about a buck fifty.  Har har.  On the other hand, Germany, and Italy it sounds like, is limited to something like 7 joules (about 5.2 fps).

For reference, 10 joules is what the Shadow 640 or a Beeman R7 delivers in .117 cal, which gives you ~200 meters/sec, or ~660 fps (nominal; 640 fps?).

[pindog2000]

what about a gamo 890s?thinking about buying one from a member on here.

[RJMcElwain]

Going back to the original subject of the new Gamo trigger assembly, has anyone tried this trigger? Is it a whole lot better than the old original or was the change a purely financial decision to save a few manufacturing bucks?

[CharlieDaTuna]

There have been a number of people that have them and so far the it seems that there is little or no improvement. Gene has had a couple of them in for tuning and is considering not taking in any more of the late model Gamo's because of the poor modification that were done and not being able to make the improvements needed to make them into the shooters that the older models were.

I have seen one of them that Gene had in and I would agree with him and if I were still in the business, I don't think I would work on them either. You just can't provide the customer what he pays for.

Like I said in the initial post, I have been a big supporter and promoter of most of the Gamo models for many years and have always felt they were a "diamond in the rough" . But.... not any longer. No longer will you be able to make them perform like the earlier versions. If tuned and lubed right, and especially if TurboTuned, the Gamo's were a super shooter but it won't be that way any longer (at least not without a lot more expense if at all). It won't be the way it used to be with the Gamo's any more. The new ones will be limited to a Super Tune at best.

My suggestion to anybody considering purchasing a Gamo, if it's not the early model, give it a second and serious thought. If I were ordering a Gamo, I would ask the dealer which ones he has before placing the order. If it's the Gamo with the plastic trigger, I wouldn't order it,

 Looking at it you can't tell but if you take a magnet and check the trigger blade and safety and it's not metal, step back. And if you want to get a good Gamo, you had better get it now before they are all gone.

The time has come to really look the other way and spend a little more and consider the RWS or something else at that level or buy something Chinese. At least they can be tuned and have really good results and a good trigger when done.

[RedFeather]

Jimmo68, if you think your gun might be exceeding the power limit and you have not had it chronographed to determine the fps, I recommend you do not. That way, should it be too high in power, you can always plead that you bought it with the implied warranty that the gun met the legal restrictions. In other words, let the seller take the blame. Even a seemingly low powered gun can knock some impressive holes into a board. Be sure your scope stop is on tight and that the stop pin in the bottom is into one of the shallow holes in the top of the mounting rib. I've had Gamo's come with the stop improperly positioned and it soon "walked" clear back to the end cap in a couple of shots. The 4X32 Gamo branded scope is not knowm to be a very good one. Why not try your open sights while awaiting the new scope? I really like them (have a Royal, too.) About the nicest gun Gamo makes. Glad you have the good trigger (as bad as it is) since you can get Charlie's gold trigger and make it great. Welcome to club!

[jimmo68]

hi
 well i bought  the Charlie's trigger but i'm still waiting for it. in italy we all know that if it gets to me  , thats all ready a miricle. well about the cfx royal it's declaered that it shoots 1000 ft/sec out of the muzzel and that is what is declaired on the papers the gunsmith left me . so i don't really know what this means in power wise. it's 305 meters out of the muzzle. i'm also using the jsb extra and the H&N Baracuda macth at this time and don't know if it may damage the spring . shoots well with these . as i said hope that i bought a good scope for it  it's a bushnel sharpshooter 3-9 x 32 .  hope i'm worng but , i think that the gunsmigh is not informed enough regaurding air rifles .the reason i say this is they told me that i can put any scope on this rifle without having any problems .  i apologize to any one that reads what i write for i am a newcomer in the field , and may  have misinterpted some things , just trying  to understand some things about airgunning .  if there is some suggestions to what  pellets i should use  , i would greatly thank you. i only use it for target shooting ( at the moment more o less 20 meters )distance till i get the new mounts and scope . will the scope stand the rifle ? or is it  the wrong type ?  so sorry for always writing questions  , but have to learn from somewhere and need people who know what they say for advise cause it seems that here in ITALY they don't know much !!!!!!
  thanks to all  of you for your time .