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Offline t165

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Questions about B-12 and possible BAM clone of HW50s
« on: January 03, 2010, 05:57:25 PM »
I bought a Xisico B-12 a few months back and except for the trigger the little air rifle has more than met my expectations. Has anyone on here had any luck improving the trigger on their B-12? If so could you share a bit of instruction with me on how to properly go about smoothing out the trigger. I was going to buy an R7 but if I can improve the trigger on this little air rifle I might just keep it and save a lot of $.

Also, I purchased a B-26 a couple of months ago also. Very glad I bought this instead of paying 3 times as much to get a R9. For this reason I am asking if the BAM factory is going to be producing a copy of the Weinrauch HW50s. If they are, and if it is of the same quality as my B-26, I would love to own one. If not I'm going to pull the trigger and get a HW50s. I would appreciate any advice I can glean.

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Re: Questions about B-12 and possible BAM clone of HW50s
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2010, 03:14:50 AM »
I like you t165, purchased the B-12 a couple months ago and have the MM B-26, I love the B-26. I also would like to know if there is any way to improve the trigger on the B-12. Other than the trigger it is a sweet little airgun. I'am very impressed with the tight groups the B-12 produces but the trigger takes some getting use to. I like the weight and the tame power of the B-12 so much I have a HW30s on order.

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RE: Questions about B-12 and possible BAM clone of HW50s
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 01:00:30 PM »
i have a b-16 and find the trigger challenging as well. that being said, its pretty accurate for a 70.00 gun. perfect basement/backyard plinker. i think i will ask MM how he works on the trigger.

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RE: Questions about B-12 and possible BAM clone of HW50s
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 10:21:25 PM »
polish the contact surfaces very carefully, lubricate lightly. Adding an adjustment screw will help but it's not going to be a safe trigger, keep some sear engagement. I am working on adding a Rekord type trigger to the rifle but the project has gotten side tracked, hope I can get it done for the Shot Show to show to the guys at the factory...

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Re: Questions about B-12 and possible BAM clone of HW50s
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 11:18:08 PM »
Way to go Mike. If anyone can show the factory guys how to build a better airgun it is YOU. You are no doubt the Man for sure. The MM B26-2 I got from you is the best thing since sliced bread. It definitely shoots better than an airgun costing twice as much. The little B12 is a sweet airgun and if you could improve the trigger you would have another winner just like your B26. Thank you Mike for what you do.

Charlie,

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2010, 01:46:09 AM »
I got inspried again and as it's too cold outside to do anything I returned to the rifle, turned down a B 26 trigger end cap and got it installed, works like a dream after some fiddling with stuff. Will be taking the stock over to a wood working buddy this afternoon and getting everything fitted. The new trigger makes a big difference but isn't something I would do on a regular basis, took about 4 hours....might even install one of the new after market barrels just to see what it will do...have a $300 B-12 when I get done...

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Re: Questions about B-12 and possible BAM clone of HW50s
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2010, 07:46:28 AM »
Way to go Mike make it better than the factory.
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Re: Questions about B-12 and possible BAM clone of HW50s
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2010, 08:02:27 AM »
Mike, if you convince the factory to make a b12 with a b26 like trigger, HW better get working on bringing the R8 back... And I would easily pay double for the b12 with the improved trigger (and throw in iron sights please,lol). Right now i got mine making little nickel cloverleafs at 25/30 yards with a 4x32 at the helm. It likes the Daisy wadcutters better than the Super h points, but the speed drops to 625 fps avg. the trigger has gotten better but it still plain suck.

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Re: Questions about B-12 and possible BAM clone of HW50s
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2010, 10:30:47 AM »
The major gun manufacturers (powderburners) have all seemed to have followed Savages lead when that company came out with their accu-trigger. They all have either improved their existing factory triggers or invented new designs after Savage grabbed a bigger market share due to their redesigned trigger. I think some air gun manufacturers should look to doing the same. The one gripe all shooters complain about, and insist upon, is a good rifle trigger. As I siad before, my only major gripe about the B-12 is the trigger. I would gladly pay more for a better trigger from the factory. Since Mike says one of his custom trigger tunes would add around $300 to the B-12 I hope he can convince the factory to engineer an affordable factory design.

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Re: Questions about B-12 and possible BAM clone of HW50s
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2010, 12:41:54 PM »
The factory can do the work on the trigger much cheaper than I can....a retro fit is a bugger. I just hope they listen...this rifle could be a real honey with just a hint more work...even if they had to charge $100 with a good trigger it would be great....

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Re: Questions about B-12 and possible BAM clone of HW50s
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2010, 12:46:10 AM »
If Bam put a good trigger in the B-12 and priced it at $100 it would be the bargen of the year. Even with the current trigger and priced at $65 it is still a bargen. When ya find the pellet your B-12 likes and learn to deal with the current trigger it will surprise the crap out of you. Mine smoked like crazy for the first 300 or 400 shot cycles and the trigger did get a little better but after that the gun groups better than I ever thought it would. It's still rough around the edges and it is not a match grade airgun but it's a cool little gun and alot of fun to plink with in the basement at 15 yards. I've been shooting the heck out of mine and enjoy it more everyday. Get on those factory guys Mike, they can make the trigger closer to the B-26 and for $100 I would buy another one in a minute.  Keep up the good work Mike.

Charlie,

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Re: Questions about B-12 and possible BAM clone of HW50s
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2010, 01:01:37 AM »
just tried .177 gamo hunters in my b16 and WOW, tighter groups than rws basic. i'm learning to stage the trigger like a double action revolver and its improving my accuracy. i'm liking the synthetic thumbhole stock more and more too. sweet little rig with a bugbuster 4x. thanks MM.