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Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« on: January 04, 2010, 10:38:24 AM »
I don't usually get PO'd at a company, I just don't do business with them again. I broke my own rule with Pyramidair. A few years back I got three guns from them in succession, and returned two of them because they were obviously used...not just used -- one was broken...looked like it'd fallen off a truck on the highway -- but not because it was damaged in the mail...the box it came in was pristine. So after my experiences with them, I swore off. Regretfully I discovered later that they had great deals on pellets (buy 3 get 1 free). So I placed an order. The first order went well, so I dropped my guard. The next order I placed I used a few different means to get a GREAT deal on about $120 in pellets. I placed my order and waited. And waited. And waited. A month later, I called. They told me they were waiting on one item...it'd be in in a week. So i waited and waited...How long is too long to wait for an order?

About 3 weeks after that I called and waited 20 minutes on hold. I said "Hey, my order placed 2 months ago still isn't here. It was paid. I was told it'd be here in a week almost a month ago..." I was told they were waiting for some pellets. Good thing, because the whole order was pellets... I asked if we could just exchange the pellets. Sorry, they said, they can't change an order placed through ebillme, they'd have to cancel the order and I'd have to wait for a refund from ebillme, but I could place the order again. Oh, I see...pay twice for the same thing I still didn't have... So much for that discount. I refused.

I waited. Waited some more. Realized i was running low on pellets. What the heck, I thought... I placed an order about 3 months ago, I should have PLENTY of pellets. Oh, right, the order that I'd paid for 3 months ago still didn't show. I called again. I waited for half an hour on hold. I got the same song and dance as the previous time, but the person who answered the phone this time just yapped over me like I was not even there. I asked to speak with a supervisor, she refused. We talked some more. She said I could cancel the order and get a refund. I said "I already GOT the 8-10-week-to-process-refund from ebillme...I cashed the check. What will happen if I get a refund?" She said, "Please hold." Ten minutes later, she picked up. "Well, we don't know." She told me I could call ebillme and find out. I said "how about YOU call ebillme, as it is a company you use to process your transactions. YOU have the contract with them, NOT me. Can I please speak with a supervisor." She said, "Please hold."

Forgive me if my patience was wearing thin, but I kept in my shirt and the only thing that was going up was my bloodpressure. She comes back after about 10 minutes "The supervisor doesn't know either..." By  now I'm over an hour on the phone waiting for an answer about an order I should have had delivered 3 months ago... I started looking for the candid camera.

So, did I get satisfaction? Nope. They still have my money. They still have the pellets. When I finally did get the supervisor on the phone I said to her "just find a pellet tin that is about the same price as what I ordered, write CROW on the label and send it as part of the order. Whatever it is I won't complain!!" Then she offered to cancel the order...and I asked her what happens to the funds...and she said she didn't know but I could call the .... Same conversation as before. Finally I convinced her that it was HER responsibility to call and find out the general policy for a company that they contracted. I thought she agreed. "I'll call and get back to you." I've gotten no return call, no email, nothing.

Right now, I have no idea why it would take 3 months to send an order... why customer service would not follow up at all on an order... why customer service would give you the phone number for one of their vendors to call and find out about their billing policy... why an order is so rigid that there can't be any substitutions... why you would encourage customers to pay with a service that took the power of business out of your own hands and leads to customer dissatisfaction... why you would not have an inventory system to know what you were stocking so you could actually send things to your customers that they bought -- or at least warn them that something was out-of-stock... Or why you wouldn't do a lot more to get a customer what they'd paid for. 3 used guns and 3+ months of waiting for pellets later, I am perfectly DONE with pyramidair -- great pellet prices or not. Great prices don't mean diddly if you never get the product and you run out of pellets waiting.

I think they are sub-par all the way around, and they need to do better than getting 20% of the orders they do correct.

Thanks for listening. I hope a few avoid them with this warning, and maybe they'll get the message that they need to do more than just have a web site to maintain customers.
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2010, 11:46:30 AM »
I have ordered pellets one time, and then a few other small things another.   didn't have a problem.  I'd be pretty *_*_*_*_*_*ed if that happened to me!  and having problems with companies is very very frustrating!    I had a problem with rpmoutlet.com  one time and swore to never buy from them again.  and I haven't.
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RE: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2010, 11:59:58 AM »
Wow, that's worse than dealing with Verizon !!!!!!

I've ordered a scope, mounts and lots of pellets from them and never had a problem. All ordered from their website, but I don't use ebillme.

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Re: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2010, 12:27:51 PM »
ebillme turned out to be a joke. I saved $25 on a $100 order... but still don't have the order and may need to cancel, so what good was it?
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2010, 01:32:43 PM »


I feel your pain Richard,



But what caused me to stop ordering from Pyramyd Air was when I ordered 8 cans of different pellets,ONE can was out of stock when I ordered, :obut was due in the next week ! When I checked to see my orders status, it was now waiting for a different can of pellets that went on back order while I waited for the last can to come in. :0Now it goes from bad to worse, when I checked the next week, yes you guessed it, another of my selections went on back order, and wouldn't be in for three weeks :emoticon:



Well after telling their customer service person what a poor system they had, and that my order should have been pulled when placed, that way I wouldn't be waiting 4 weeks for pellets I had already waited for, I canceled my order ! :emoticon:



I have been known to cut my nose off to spite my face, but I usually take the other guys face off first :emoticon:



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RE: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2010, 01:51:11 PM »
Wow, that sucks. I would never order from them again. Hell I would try to contact the owner. You just made me re-think the order I have in my wishlist I've been getting ready to move to the cart and checkout.  I agree they have pretty good prices but that's horrible customer service.  Maybe it's time to go to Straightshooters or A of A and see if they have what I want.

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Re: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2010, 02:15:57 PM »
That is essentially what is going on with me. I ordered about 10 different types of pellets, and one wasn't in, so they wouldn't ship a partial order. It is a STUPID system. They either need to take orders for what they have in stock, or ORDER MORE. It isn't like they go bad...
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2010, 02:17:04 PM »
I asked for the owner's email, and the 'customer service' person refused to give it to me. They stink.
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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RE: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2010, 02:25:54 PM »


Rich, I totally understand your grievance and resolve to not do business with PA again. A couple of years ago I had a very similar problem with them and what I felt like was a total lack of ANY customer support. My order was paid for and held up for one small item ( I think a barrel cleaning mop) for 3 months. I swore I would never deal with these folks again. But, after seeing everyone talk about their good deals, as well as sponsoring Pauls show, I reluctantly gave them another try. I ordered my Benji from them and alsoplaced 2-3 other orders for ammo and supplies in the last 3 months without a single hitch. But with my prior experience and yours, I feel it's like rolling the dice that any upcoming order is going to be a major headache.



Nathan and anyone else not in TN, GA or AL be sure to try Natchezss.com also.



Happy Shooting!!!!



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Benjamin Trail NP XL1100 (project gun)
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Re: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2010, 02:35:59 PM »
Geeze, and it doesn't look like my situation is anything new to PA!!

http://www.ripoffreport.com/guns-ranges/pyramyd-air-guns/pyramyd-air-guns-ripoff-intern-42x4d.htm
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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RE: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2010, 02:53:29 PM »
Hmmm....but after reading ALL of his correspondence and responses, it seems to give PA and their customer service a glowing recommendation. To me, it's still a crap shoot. I got NO customer service support 2 years ago but like I said, the last 2-3 orders were smooth as silk.
Crosman/Revelation 760 PumpMaster (Vintage 1967)
Powerline 1000S .177 (semi-tuned by me)
Benjamin Super Streak .177/.22 (semi-tuned by me)
Benjamin Trail NP XL1500 (bone stock)
Benjamin Trail NP XL1100 (project gun)
TF89 .22 (tuned by Gene)
Winchester 1000WS .177 (semi-tuned by muwah)
QB57 (l

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Re: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2010, 04:20:20 PM »
Man Richard I don't blame you, if PA had any honor at all they would send you a complete refund  immediately with a apology and a few tins for free! I won't deal with them at all, I won't get into why this is your thread buddy, I know Commpaseco knows how to treat a customer, they have been super good to me.
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Re: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2010, 04:25:48 PM »
I'd file a complaint with the better business bureau and the states attorney dept. of consumer affairs!  Don't let them get away with it buddy.
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RE: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2010, 04:40:27 PM »
hell im still waiting on my xmas gift a 4x16x50 airforce scope my baby sis got me wont be in stock till the 11th :0
keep your eyes on the prize & dont let it crawl away.

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Re: Ruffled by Pyramidair!! (a rant)
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2010, 11:00:02 PM »
I use compasseco for everything else, really, unless i find a super 'deal' like PA pellets (hahahaha)
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO