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Offline Mryan21

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Woodchuck....
« on: January 26, 2010, 04:54:13 AM »
Went squirrel hunting yesterday. I didn't have any luck , but on the way back to the house i saw a woodchuck peaking out of its hole. Although it's january, it was 51  here in upstate yesterday. I saw one last year in March. Wonder if we are getting an early spring. I asked him, but he ignored me. So i'm not for sure. Any of you guys hunt woodchucks with an airrifle? I don't have a gun with enough power for them. So i guess i'll have to stock with the .222 rem. Anyway, what kind of power is needed in an airgun to harvest one of these things?
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Re: Woodchuck....
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2010, 05:30:56 AM »
Longislandhunter shoots them all the time!  Just go back and look at some old posts.  I'd say a 350M or a TF89 has the power to kill one with a headshot.
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RE: Woodchuck....
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 05:39:43 AM »
Did somebody say woodchuck ????   I hunt woodchucks all summer long with my air rifles.  Matter of fact during the summer they are my primary target while I'm shooting at the commercial duck farm that I hunt on.  The farm is literally over run with "g-hogs" and they eat a lot of the duck grain from the large open wooden feeders.  If you want to see some pics of some of the ones I've harvested just do a search in the "Hunting Gate", I've posted quite a few pics over the years of dead G-hogs :)

As for what kind of power is needed to cleanly take a G-hog,,,,  a .22 cal magnum springer like the RWS 350, TF-89, RWS 48 or something in that class is best.  Of course it goes without saying that PCP's like the Disco, the Marauder, AA 410, Air Force Talon SS, talon or Condor, or other PCP's are also easily capable of taking them cleanly.  2 years ago I bought a .22 cal Air Force Condor specifically for hunting G-hogs and it's a G-hog killing machine  :)   I've taken some real jumbo G-hogs at the farm over the years, some real monsters, but most of them that I take are your average sized g-hog.  You can also take out a g-hog with a very well placed shot from a .177 rifle as well, I took quite a few with my Beeman R-9 Goldfinger, but of course the range was much closer than the range I take them with the Condor.  

As much as I love my air gun small game hunting I have to admit that stalking the duck farm hunting G-hogs is my favorite thing to do.  As you know they have very keen senses and the challenge of stalking within air gun range is like the ultimate "rush" for me.  I can't wait until the warmer weather gets here and they emerge from the earth nice and hungry  :)

A couple other guys on the forum regularly take g-hogs as well.  My good buddy Harry is a well known G-hog exterminator  :)

You should give it a try....  Once you do I think you'll be as hooked as Harry and I are....


Here's a link to one of my posts with pictures where I got a 14 lb 8 oz G-hog   :)

http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=21132&posts=22&highlight=G-hog&highlightmode=1#M169914


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Re: Woodchuck....
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 08:29:06 AM »
Jeff,

I hear that they are quite good eating, when they are younger. Like rabbit only slightly nutty.

I actually intend to shoot a couple this year.

M

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Re: Woodchuck....
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 08:37:56 AM »
Woodchuck's where? hehehe. Jeff had a great year last year with the G-hog's  8) I had a low body count on em  :0 but hopefully this spring will be better. That one you seen must of rose early to check out the warm temp's. :) Ed
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Re: Woodchuck....
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2010, 08:53:38 AM »
Mark,,,, they are very good eating, I eat all the ones I shoot.   The younger ones are of course more tender and milder tasting, but even the older ones are good.  I make stew and pot roast out of the big ones and they are absolutely delicious.  I still have quite a few g-hogs stowed away in the freezer from this past season.  Matter of fact I had cajun fried g-hog for a late lunch this afternoon,,,, it was finger lickin good :)

All this talk about shooting g-hogs is getting my blood moving and my trigger finger twitchin  :)

I can hardly wait until they wake up in the spring and come out to feast  :)

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Re: Woodchuck....
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2010, 09:37:47 AM »
What Jeff said, and if you can get up close to within about 25, even 30yds, you can kill them with a head shot using a .177.  Even a 14fpe gun like the Diana 34 or 36.  I took 17 of them with my Diana 36 .177 (avg. 900fps with 7.9gr and 860fps with 8.3 Superdomes) in the Spring/Summer '08.  All with 1 shot to the head.  I got pass-through with most except if they were >22-23yds away, but still got a clean kill.  

Last year I only got 14 (on my property mind you), and half of them were with the Diana 350 .22 Magnum Springer.  The rest with .22 Condor (PCP).   Their soft spot is their head right behind the eye or half way between eye & ear.  
You will almost never get a clean kill with a body shot. I have shot them with .22LR rimfire (high & ultra velocity of 1,300fps) in the chest/body and they still ran after a good hit!  So I started shooting them in the head only, even with the .22 rimfire before I switched to airguns 3yrs ago.

Here are a couple of big ones :)

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BTW, I saw a dead G-hog on the side of the road yesterday too!  About 1/2mi. from my house.  It got up to 52 deg. here too.  They must have thought it's Spring already.
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Re: Woodchuck....
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2010, 10:19:44 AM »
Jeff, if you get a chance, you might want to try my rabbit recipe with them. It's incredible. I'm talkin' guest-worthy. If you can't find it easily, I can email it or repost on this thread.

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Re: Woodchuck....
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2010, 10:42:43 AM »
Mark, I'd love to give it a try.  If you could email me the recipe that would be great .  My email link is at the bottom of each of my posts....

Jeff
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RE: Woodchuck....
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2010, 10:45:37 AM »
They're a week or so early, but....

Depending on snow depth and temps, the male Woodchucks come out late January to early Febuary to find a female's borrow. They enter the borrows and impregnate the females while they are sleeping. Then the males return to their own borrows and go back into hibernation. When the females come up in early Spring they have already given birth.

That's also why Ground Hogs day is Febuary 2nd.  

What Harry said, forget body shots, even with a .22 LR. Because I had too many runners, I stopped using my 22 mag with hollow points and went to a .223 with ballistic tips.

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RE: Woodchuck....
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2010, 10:48:42 AM »
That's interesting,,, I didn't know that.  

All this talk about woodchucks is getting my anxious for spring to arrive  :)

Jeff
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RE: Woodchuck....
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2010, 11:03:31 AM »
Same here Jeff.

Seeing all those chucks last year and not being able to hunt any just about drove me crazy (it's a short drive these days !)

I gotta find a farm this year that's overrun.... and no kids on it who want to learn to shoot. Last Spring was the third farm I lost out to kids!
However, even though it puts a crimp in my hunting, I love to hear about kids wanting to learn to shoot and hunt !!!!

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Re: Woodchuck....
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2010, 11:22:31 AM »
I sent via email, but what the heck, I'll dupe below.


Gorgonzola Bunny
(takes 1/2 hour to prep, and 2-2 1/2 hours to cook.)


For 4 people:


2 large rabbits
2 T Tarragon, divided
1 cup flour
ample salt and pepper to taste
2 T olive oil (as needed)


2 cloves garlic, peeled and whole
2 bay leaves
3-4 springs of thyme
2-3 onions (based upon taste and size/room)
2 large turnips
3/4 lb carrots (less or more to taste)
2 cups Chicken broth (enough to cover--best quality made with feet*)
1 cup of dry white wine.
1/3 lb Gorgonzola (Italian is better, if it's not really sharp, try Danish Blue instead)
Fresh Tarragon for garnish or to add to sauce (optional)



First, bone the rabbit. I separate the back legs and then simply cut the meat off each in as large pieces as possible. Then I cut the meat from the front legs, and slice the saddle off both sides. I then cut the loins off by running a sharp blade down either side of the back bone. This is tricky and a bit like filleting fish, pulling the meat out with your thumb and scraping along the spine and ribs with the knife. It's worth the effort however. If you don't feel comfortable doing this, you can cut the whole loin section apart from the ribs and worry about pulling the meat once it's cooked. If you REALLY don't want to bone the rabbit at all, you can have the butcher cut it into pieces, but your guests will have to eat the meat from the bone and some may be squeamish.


Once boned, dredge the rabbit pieces in flour seasoned with 1/2 of the tarragon and ample salt and pepper. lightly brown in a non-stick pan and place in your dutch oven or covered pan. I like to add a half tablespoon of the seasoned flour to the pan with a little more olive oil, to cook for a few minutes. This will act as a thickening agent. De-glaze pan with wine and a bit of stock and pour into the dutch oven with the rabbit pieces.


Peel and coarsely chop the carrot, onion, and turnips. Add to the pot with the rabbit. Add remaining tarragon, thyme, garlic, and bay leaves. Cover with best quality chicken stock, bring to a simmer, and then place in a 350' oven for 1 1/2 hours. Add about 1/3 of the Gorgonzola to the pot, in small pieces. Return the pot to the oven for another 10 minutes or so.


Serve on plates or wide bowls. Arrange the rabbit and vegetables so that you can place small pieces of Gorgonzola on each bit of rabbit. Pour hot broth from the pot over the pieces of rabbit so that it melts the Gorgonzola into a glaze. Serve with a nice pinot noir and a salad of bitter greens with a Dijon vinaigrette.


Note 1: if you bring the sauce back to a simmer it will help the Gorgonzola melt when you pour the sauce over the rabbit. Note 2: on herbs, I've found that one can omit the thyme without much ill effect and if you don't have fresh, don't add thyme at all. Also, the tarragon need not be fresh. Dried seems to work quite well and should not be omitted.

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Re: Woodchuck....
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2010, 11:28:13 AM »
Thanks for the recipe  :)

Jeff
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Re: Woodchuck....
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2010, 12:42:27 AM »
Let me know how you like it. My wife, who had never eaten rabbit before, fell in LOVE with this dish. We get cravings for it as soon as it starts getting colder, every year.

BTW, some might pair a white with this dish, but I'd go with a light red. A light pinot noir or maybe a fruitier Rhone-style. It doesn't need a big or expensive wine, but it does need a nice wine to really bring out the Gorgonzola. Oh, one other thing. If you can't get good Italian gorg easily, Maytag will work quite well. If you want to take it a notch higher, the spanish Cabrales is very good to. Basically the tangy and pronounced the blue, the better.