Crosman NP..???? I’m impressed

[CharlieDaTuna]

It really does take quite a bit to light me up and as almost every one knows, I have never been impressed with the gas ram systems that have been installed in guns or the replacement rams that are available or even most of the factory guns…..that is until now.

One of our members sent me his Crosman NPSS to check out and do some testing on. The first thing that I did was popped the box, cocked the gun, stuffed a pellet into the shoot chute stuck it out the back door and pulled the trigger.

 Now I’m not one to say “wow” but “WOW”. I couldn’t believe how well it shot, from the cocking cycle all the way through the firing cycle. I have shot quite a few gas ram guns with various gas ram systems but none of them felt this good.    

The cocking stroke is smooth as silk and not as hard as I would have expected based on other rams that I have shot and when the sear locked in place it was very solid. When you pull the trigger and send the piston home, all you feel is a thud and when it reached home, the shock was far less than I expected and what I have found in other guns with a ram engine in the past. This is a totally stock gun, nothing done to it. This system should not be hard on scopes at all, and not a scope eater like most gas rams have proven to be.

Then I began to wonder about the power and was it really delivering. I decided to run some lead through the lights to see just what this thing was really doing. I’m thinking by the way it felt, low to mid 8’s. Surprised again. With 7.9 pellets it was clocking 910 fps with a 5 fps spread and 880’s using 8.3 pellets. To me that is about a perfect velocity for an all around gun and good accuracy and what I used to try to achieve when I was tuning guns.  

The only thing that I found to be objectionable was the long extended and heavy trigger pull, which I was already aware of and expected. That can be resolved.

I’m not going to open this gun up for reasons that I’ll not disclose but I’m thinking that it is pretty decent inside.

We are aware of course that Crosman has discontinued the NPSS under the Crosman banner and have moved it over to the Benjamin line under the Trail NP series. Same horse in a different barn I’m thinking.     If they are using the same power plant and system, (and they probably are), they once again really do in my view have something that will move for them and something that I would highly recommend.  

Whoda thunk it!!! My how me and times have changed…

[dk1677]

Thanks for the review Bob!

[atchman2]

All we want to know is can you fix the trigger?  I saw Paul do a review of it and it had a SIX POUND pull on the trigger!

[CharlieDaTuna]

Yep                  

[Tpatner412]

I've read that the trigger is different than a normal AR trigger.  Like the way it distributes weight through the first and second stage or something like that?  Is that so?  I read that in Tom Gaylord's blog and didn't really understand it.
And of course, thanks for the review.  Can't wait to see what you come up with to remedy the trigger.

[LongIslandArcher]

I thought they moved it to the Remington line and are calling it the Remington NPSS.  PyramydAir even sent me an email that Crosman moved it to Remington so that the latter gets more business.

[North Pack]

Very nice to hear Bob, - and that trigger can "be fixed" - Or do you think that's really necessary?

[Timmyj1959@yahoo.com]

The rain has finally stopped here,,,,soon as the sun comes up Im looking for that rainbow. Im betting there just may be a pot of New Gold Triggers at the end of it!!!!!He He He!! Timbo.

[airiscool]

Lets hope so Tim, because I've been giving serious thought to a Benji Trail NP XL for critter control, but not if there isn't gonna be a "Tuna trigger" fix in it's future.

Paul.

[chuckster750800]

I want to get in line for a Tuna Trigger to put in my Npss. Other than the long hard trigger pull the Npss is a nice shooter. Keep us all updated Bob.

Charlie,

[gamo2hammerli]

Good initial feelings about the NPSS Bob.  Even better if the trigger can be modded to be better.

[Zzyzx]

"Go look it up; it's called the NCT trigger"

Is that the "Not CharlieTuna" trigger?.

[CharlieDaTuna]

Don't need to look it up and almost everyone is aware of it. Few have been sold. There are several different upgrades and mods for all kinds of applications, some better than others. There have been many NPSS trigger mods that I'm sure that you are not aware of but the NPSS and NCT does leave something to be desired and can be made to work far better. And the cost is twice what it should be in my opinion even if were exceptional with a whole new geometrical design. And in the case of the NPSS, you can't really change the basic design. You don't always get what you pay for.

And not only that, you could get the support and service that has been legendary in the past. What is that worth???  It seems there are not many around that truly support the NCT trigger (or the person that introduced it), and actually few sold as I understand it from a reliable inside source. And those that bought it that didn't like it were stuck with it and out their money.

[CharlieDaTuna]

Yes, it can be fixed.

In my opinion John... for what it's worth ... it's not a question of "is it necessary" but rather is it an improvement that both improves the accuracy of the person behind the trigger and feel of the trigger to the shooter.  And then is it worth the investment in an upgrade for that ultimate acheivement. That's a question that only the individual person that is contemplating or tossing that thought around in his mind has to weigh. Much like purchasing a GRT-III. Is it worth the investment to me

[RedFeather]

Was responding to your post last night when the power went out for the last time. So far as I can tell from all the post-catalog hoopla, the Crosman Nitro will be rebadged as a Remington and still made in USA. The Benjamin Super Streak becomes a gas rammed Trails. Looks like they are simply swapping rams for springs in the Benjamin lineup. Those will be made in China. Question is, where is the ram made? Makes more business sense for the Chinese to make a ram and install it, shipping the complete gun. Are the current NPSS rams made in USA? I would think so, but you never know if that means all components, etc.

Charlie, how did that rubber cheek comb work? Did it cut any more of the recoil or is it just there for cosmetics? (At least, on a firearm, you want a less grabby stock to let the comb slide free with recoil.) Handled a Nitro and they sure seem like a nice one. Been wondering if I ought to get a Crosman before the Remington change. Might be a tad collectible, etc.