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Offline airiscool

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Back to basics
« on: February 11, 2010, 04:27:52 AM »
Tried the Crosman Powermaster on a Starling this morning. There were only a couple feeding with two Doves. The Doves seem to make the Starlings less twitchy. As one turned toward me I got a right quartering breast shot. All I could see was that the BB leaving at 620fps just scared the bird 22 yards away. Didn't even flinch - just flew off.

I put the Whisper back next to the door.  

A few minutes ago I looked out and there was a Starling sitting in the bush to the right of the feeder. It was facing right toward me, but I figured if I moved slow enough....

I slowly opened the kitchen door and slid the Whisper out. I grabbed the door edge with my left hand and rested the Whisper on the back of my hand. At 9 power I could clearly see the Starling though a small gap in the branches. I put the cross hairs on the center of it's beast as I'd done with the one yesterday that rolled and flew off,  and squeezed. It spun over backwards bouncing off branches as it fell straight down. It hit the ground and didn't move.

Knowing better now, I quickly reloaded and put the scope back on it just in case it decided to come back from the dead !!!

After a minutes watching it hadn't moved so much as one feather. I waited a few more minutes to see if any others were coming, but none around, so I went out with camera to retreive it.

First two pictures  are the Starling where it landed under the bush.
Third pic, the pencil is pointing to the entrance wound - dead center, no exit.  

The Starling I breast shot and rolled yesterday was right below and slightly behind where this one was - shot was roughly the same distance.  Yesterday, the 15.8 gr Jumbo rolled it and while visable having trouble flying, it was still able to fly off.

Today, the Whisper is back to shooting the 13.4 gr Jumbo RS. And it's dialed back in for 30 yards incase Red Squirrels show up out by the stone wall. At roughly 22 yards to where the Starling was in the bush, it  hit about 1/2 higher than where I had the cross hairs.  

The first Starling I shot last weekend drppped in it's tracks with this same 13.4 gr Jumbo RS.

After seeing so many hit and fly off, it's nice not to feel like I want to rip out what little hair I have left ...especially when it's this cold !!!!Think I'll stick with this set up.  :D

Paul.
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Offline Mryan21

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RE: Back to basics
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2010, 04:57:04 AM »
Great shot, keep shooting those nasties. Wish i had some to shoot....
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Re: Back to basics
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2010, 05:01:55 AM »
Are you sure there's no exit wound? I never seen them myself, but I hear the pellet bouncing around in the garden and, of course, I occasionally get doubles.

In any case, the BC shooting CrowMags isn't THAT much hotter than a Whisper, is it? Especially in 22?


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Yeah, I'll stick with this.
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2010, 05:08:49 AM »
Just got another. The two Doves were back, so a few Starlings felt it was safe enough and came in to join them.

This one, like the others was a right side, center mass shot - just like the many others that flew off.

You can see the left side feathers hanging off show it was a pass through that broke out some wing feathers.

The pencel points to the entrance wound.

Nice when it works !!!

Paul.
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RE: Back to basics
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2010, 05:19:27 AM »
Mark,
No exit that I could find on that first one.

My guess is my gas ram Whisper is not as hot as a BC. I didn't have a chrony when I swapped out the spring, but going by penitration comparisons, the Air Venturi ram doesn't seem to increase power in it.

The 15.8 gr Jumbo's do 620 and these 13.4 Jumbo RS are doing 686fps last time I clocked them. Hows that compare with yout BC ?

Paul.
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Re: Back to basics
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2010, 05:29:57 AM »
Nice shooting Paul! and great pictures!
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Re: Back to basics
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2010, 05:33:54 AM »
I haven't chrony'd it, but I'm guessing that I'm shooting at about 800 fps with the heavier Crow Mags. Maybe more. It's supposed to be 1,000 fps (riiiiiiight). But maybe a comparison is harder to make since you're shooting .22 and I'm shooting .177.

I say test it. Get two birds lined up just right and see if they both fall!!

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Meanwhile, I've taken three shots today and missed them all. One was a "double header" that I rushed, but I thought it would have been worth the effort if I made it. (two head shots in one? c'mon, that's too cool). The others, I'm not sure what was up. I'm probably in need of a resighting.

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Re: Back to basics
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2010, 06:24:08 AM »
thats a tough shot
nice shooting and shot placement

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RE: Back to basics
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2010, 07:09:52 AM »
Thanks guys.

It's nice to finally see it  work !!!
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Re: Back to basics
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2010, 09:30:00 AM »
Great shots with your .22 Whisper.  Those big pellets leaving around 680fps definitely put the hurt on them.  Nice photos of the downed birds too.

Mebits, my BC after 3800 shots were shooting 8.8gr. Crow Mags at 690fps average.  After installing a new Crosman spring it was shooting them at 880fps average...giving 15.26 ft. lb. energy.
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Re: Back to basics
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2010, 09:47:47 AM »
BTW, no matter what, that's a nice shot.

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Re: Back to basics
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2010, 11:40:54 AM »
Nice shooting and pics Paul!  

Keep shooting those Avian intruders!
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RE: Back to basics
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2010, 04:45:13 AM »
goos shooting and shot  placement
if at first you dont succeed, re-load, kill count 2010.
(6)squirrel
()opposum
()skunk
()chipmunks
()squirrel
()raccoon
(1)starling
()grackle
()sparrows