plastic guns

[Jerrycup]

Quite possibly it has to do with my fascination with the Mattel brand, but it seems I generally like the plastic guns.

My friend Dee made me a heck of a deal on a Glock 19 a few years ago. $200 well spent.

So now I have added a more pocketable 9 mm pistol, and a "sub rifle" with a 16 inch barrel for the same round. They were $299 and $325 each. Not exactly Mattel pricing, but inexpensive for decent pieces.

I'm stocking up on ammo, Walmart has boxes (50) of Federal 115 gr ball for $9.47, and Remington 115 gr JHP (100 count) for $25.

Thanks for the advice, I am satisfied on all counts.

This guy has some great info for all you who might want a carry "defense" gun:

http://www.mouseguns.com/semis.htm

[longislandhunter]

Plastic ??   Jerry..... it's not "plastic".....it's "Space Age Polymer"  

BIG DIFFERENCE      

As for the stocking up on ammo, it's a good game plan.   I've  already got my cache safely tucked away and am quite prepared.  

Jeff

[Big_Bill]

Well, I guess the problem of having livedso long is seeing to many changes !

I had cap guns with all metal parts, and are these worth a buck today !

Then they started making them with plastic parts and finally all plastic, and they didn't hold up too well :0 The same evolution occurred with air guns, and the plastic parts didn't hold up too well !

Now with space age polymers, my mind knows that they are as strong as steel, and in some cases stronger ! But my old mind just can't trust them to be as reliable as the steel guns. When your life depends on a firearm, you just can't concentrate on your aim when your wondering if that plastic part will fail ! And we all know that if it can go wrong, it will go wrong at the most inopportune moment :emoticon:

I have had cheap steel firearms that failed because of poor hardening and cheap steel used, I just can't trust plastics or polymers. Maybe in my next lifetime

For me, and some other Old Farts, some things are just not acceptable !!!! :p

As for ammunition supplies, I have been a survivalist for 41 years ! I have ammunition made by Mose's Ammunition Co. !

OLD Bill

[longislandhunter]

I've been exactly where you are now Bill and can appreciate your feelings  

For years I carried a  beautiful stainless steel Ruger "Security Six" .38 cal revolver.  That Ruger was solid steel, beautifully made, laser accurate and just a thing of beauty to behold and especially to hold.  Then one day my dept. switched over to the Glock 19.  When they first handed me my shiny new "plastic" gun I, along with all the other guys in the room who had been given their new guns,  looked at the Glock and then almost simultaneously yelled at the armorer "what do I do with this plastic piece of crap?  Are you kidding us?"   To say that we were less than impressed with this new technological wonder weapon  would be a serious understatement indeed, however I will cut to the chase and tell you that it didn't take me or my workmates very long to come to not only appreciate the "plastic" gun but  to love it and have undying faith in it's construction and functional ability.  My dept's armorer section ran those guns under every brutal field test you could think of and they always came through  with flying colors.  They dropped them from helicopters onto street pavement, drove over them with trucks, threw them into disgusting mud puddles, sand boxes, dirt piles and just about every other test one could think of  and the plastic gun shined.  

Anyway, just wanted to say I know exactly how you feel cause I've been there     but now.... I'm a believer    

Don't get me wrong though.... I still love the feel of a metal handgun in the palm of my hand.   Oh yeah, and as for that stainless steel Ruger I had..... I bought mine from my dept. when we switched side arms and I have to say I love that gun and will pass it down to one of my children when my time comes.  

In the end though what it really comes down to is you have to be comfortable with the weapon your holding and as long as it gets the job done when the need arises that's the measure of success.....

Jeff

[Jerrycup]

Yes, there's plastic and then there's engineered co-polymers with reinforcement. Very difficult to evaluate from just simple examination.

With plastics, half of it is just how well designed are the mold sections, the metal bosses and inserts, etc.

I'm after light weight, durability, and low cost.

I had a Gamo Whisper, thought it was terrible. The Glock 19, on the other hand, seems perfect to me. I've read some good comments about the simple Kel-Tec Sub 2000 carbine. We'll see.

Glock and Kel-Tec both warrant their products for life, and have reputations for good service - another consideration.

[1377x]

gotta love that tupperware
i know i do

[gamo2hammerli]

Hey Jerrycup.....those are some very nice "Protection".   Alot better than a good ole`baseball bat that`s for sure.

[douglas george]

I had a friend who's GLOCK warped when he left it on his truck's dashboard all day in the sun.  Another police officer friend broke his GLOCK when he was slapping it too hard in his hand...He tore the slide off the little metal tabs.  .45 ACP...for those who think it is silly to take a second shot!   I'll take my COLT 1911's when things are real tough.  Fire power is one shot. one kill...not 50 misses per minute.
Douglas George...shooting air rifles, and longbows makes one learn to make the one shot count.

[Jerrycup]

I read some reports of guys saying the Glock plastic frame melts in hell. I think they are lying, though.
My neighbors and I have recently compared several pistols to the Glock at the range, and my 1991 model easily outshoots several newer models. It looks as new, hits target well, and fires fast.
I will try not to leave mine on the dashboard of my car, though. Appreciate that pointer.
Jeff, I appreciate your comments - do you still have your service Glock? I just got a copy of the Paul Kasler book about Glocks from Amazon. Very interesting story.

[1377x]

glock melt wow if thats the case all the full-auto ones should be a pile of goo
theres videos of guys shooting 100s of rounds back to back full auto if this dont make them melt what would
i did notice that most of them are older generations though

[jwh2]

Big_Bill - 2/14/2010  10:03 AM

When your life depends on a firearm, you just can't concentrate on your aim when your wondering if that plastic part will fail !  >

Take a step back and rethink this. I have an HK USP .45 that I would bet my life on under ANY circumstance. I have many steel guns that I would do the same but I will not waste time wondering if the "plastic" is going to fail.