just wondering why people do things.......

[FlyinLo]

I'm new here and don't want to ruffle any feathers but....I have this nagging question that I thought I'd throw out there.  How long do these “cheap” units last verses the “high end” units.  So it seems rather simple to me.  If you divide the dollar amount spent on the unit in question by  the number of months the unit lasts then deduct the value of the unit at the time of sale the answer will be the value of owning that gun.  I am not even considering the fact that most “cheap” units will need work after a number of shots.  Example original cost $900 divide by 240 months (20 years) you will have spent $3.75 per month.  Now take that $250 unit divide by $3.75 and you need to keep that unit for 66 months (5 ½ years)  to reach the value of the “ high end” unit.  Not including any repairs of any kind in either example, this would have to be added to the original purchase price and redivided by the number of months owned.   Now at the end of the useful life of these units which would have a greater value.  I think the”high end” unit will be a very low cost per month hence, a better value.

[Bhawanna]

i'm loving this post...i should stir crap up more often...ha!!  i think the next post will be about cheap glass....LOL!!! :emoticon:  almost 2400 views in 48 hours?...gotta be a record of some sort....

[Gene_SC]

Now Roger, that could bite you in the behind you know...

[North Pack]

I'm a moderator on another board, - anyone "stirring things up" gets warned once, then banned.

[fsdanlie]

I've been there done that and now i'm giving alot of my guns away to my family and friends and getting mid range price guns (RWS)and that scope i got from you Roger it works very well on my 460 mag.I'm still going to get me another stoeger(low end rifle)it's the x-10 sythetic model these guns are a blast to shoot and reliable.

[t165]

Perhaps I took the message the OP was stating the wrong way. And my references to animal farm were about control...telling others what they should or should not do. I'm a former police officer and I am of the opinion that we have so many laws it is almost impossible for an average person to go an entire day without violating some asinine law/infraction. For example, its against city ordinance for children to ride their bikes on the sidewalks of Vincennes, Indiana. The children are suppose to ride their bikes in the street...even the 5-10 year old children. Thats one law I never enforced and I do not understand the thinking behind it. But a handfull of people wanted their way and they got it.  My wife is the current IRS territory manager for the states of Indiana, Illinois and Kentucky. Talk about convoluted ever changing laws. The tax code is a huge complicated joke because everyone wants an exception...an edge. Fairness has nothing to do with it in my humble opinion. So what does my rant have to do with cheap air guns? Well I'll tell ya...I enjoy them as a hobby and cannot understand why someone would wish to ridicule or judge me because of my decision to purchase a make or model air rifle they have no interest in. I'm sure there are people out there who would call an individual "stupid" or "crazy" to spend $500 to $1,000+ on an air rifle. And they would be just as wrong to judge and ridicule a person for spending large amounts on an air rifle as the person who judges another for spending modest amounts. It's their money and they should be able to spend it anyway they want without putting up with anyone's crap (except perhaps the wife's :0). Kind of reminds me of the PETA people who want to have cattle and hog farmers prosecuted for cruelty to animals...does that make a a terrible person because I ate a McDonald's quarter pounder today?

[Bogey]

Roger,   I told you that you had made a post that would stir   the "Silent Majority".     All I can say is atta boy.   The Tempest has landed.  And folks, lets remember  that this is a friendly group discussion.  The world will not change one bit as a result.    

[BWANA]

Bhawanna, I guess I'm one of those guys, so I guess I'll tell you why I own 5 "low end" guns.I'm retired and I live in Illinois. Gun laws are strict. You cannot buy anything that shoots above 700 fps without a FOID card. While I was waiting for my FOID card to be approved. I bought a Mendoza RM200, .22 cal. It's a fun gun, shoots 500-600 fps, with a great trigger. Cost me $99.00 and worth every penny. My best friend is a retired cop. He doesn't like to fish but he does like to shoot. I picked up a couple Crosman Ravens, a youth sized gun that shoots 600 fps, for us to use plinking off the back deck. One day we shot them for 3 straight hours. They cost $60 each. Lots of fun, little cost. I got my FOID card in the mail a month later and then I was able to buy my Crosman Quest 1000 and my Quest 800, .22. $230 total for the two guns. Put in a Charlie GRT-III trigger and you're ready to shoot rabbits. My most recent purchase was a Crosman G1. Even with the stock trigger, it's a tack driver, at $99. So, eleven months into the hobby, I own 5 low end guns. I work on them myself, that's half the fun. Crosman has great customer service. I can pick up the phone and get warranty parts shipped at no charge. Why does anyone do anything? I enjoy shooting. I don't need to spend thousands of dollars to do it. Some people need and want only the best that money can buy. I guess I'm just not one of those people. When it comes down to it, why spend a bunch of money for a gun that may be more accurate when accuracy really depends on the shooter more than the gun. In the end, it doesn't matter one bit to the rabbit.

Thanks for starting a great discussion,

BWANA

[ezman604]

You guys cuzins?

LOL

[BWANA]

I don't think so. BWANA is a nickname I picked up about 30 years ago from a friend at work. You know, "The great white hunter".

[chuckster750800]

Well, I guess I am one of those people. I purchased a 1377 for about $60. I put on the carbine stock, a steel breech, scope mount, Bug Buster scope, the black pump handel and now have about $200 in a $60 air gun. Hey guys, pleeeease don't tell anyone.

Chuck,

[t165]

I feel sorry for you BWANA. You touched on part of what my last rant tirade was about. I live right across the Wabash river in Vincennes, Indiana. If I take my RWS 350 across the river I can be throwed in jail. The way I understand it an air gun cannot have a bore bigger than .18 and cannot exceed 700 fps unless you have a FOID card. Illinois is a great state but I disagree with many of the gun laws it's citizens are burdened with. Do citizens have to register the air guns with the state also?

[Gene_SC]

Well lets see some pictures of the sweety, Chuck..

[BWANA]

Yes, you register the gun when you buy it. When I bought my G1 at Dick's sporting goods it took 15 minutes to do the paper work and I had to wait 24 hrs to pick up the gun. You would think I was buying a cannon. I'm not sure about Illinois being a great state. We're broke and the past three Governors are in jail or on their way to jail. Because of the gun regulations, the selection of airguns that are available is limited. I'm done buying guns, unless I stumble upon a great buy on my travels out of state.

[ranedouglas]

don't feel bad, chuckster - look what i do :    buy a $80-100 co2 carbine (2250 rat-catcher w/ steel breech).   then put a longer tube w/ disco air system on it ($70).    then fine tune it w/ some custom parts ($40).    after i pit a decent scope on it ($50-70).   now, it's nearly a $300 pistol - or carbine - that shoots 20 ftlbs and gets 20 shots.     now it's gone from a $90 co2 gun to a smoking hot pcp that weighs 4 lbs.    now it's a $300 gun.     when i first got back into this, i would see all this crap about crosmans and people putting these custom parts or extra crosman parts on them......i was telling myself, "why do people do these things ?".    "why don't they just get a nice european gun ?".    "why are they messing w/ this daisy / crosman crap ?"    "don't they understand why we enjoy adult airgunning ?".       you know.... "quality precision" !?!!?? .     now i comprende.  - paul d self in ft.worth.