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Offline ezman604

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Re: QB57 FUN Project
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2010, 11:09:27 AM »


Thanks for the number comparision Andy. The breach seal doesn't look too good on this one so hopefully the spring and seals will bring it up to the 600fps range with CPHP. I think Gene used a Gamo spring in his. Whichone Gene? :)



And he made a button adapter for a different seal. I don't have the machinery to do that but will replace the factory seal.

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Re: QB57 FUN Project
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2010, 01:15:32 PM »
Dave,

If you do replace with a synthetic seal from a QF kit, don't throw away your old seal.  You might find that the compression tube is not perfectly round and a syn seal doesn't perform as well as a leather seal.  Surprisingly, I've never had a completely trashed leather seal.  I've cleaned them off and scuffed the edge a bit with coarse sandpaper then soaked for a couple days in Neatsfoot oil.  You're not trying to sand off any of the leather only opening up the fibers so it can absorb the oil.  Then wipe them off really well and reinstall.  You'll be surprised that rejuvenating leather seals like this works wonders.  The "forgiving" nature of the leather seal lets it conform better to tube imperfections.

I actually believe that for lower powered rifles leather seals are better than synthetic.  Where synthetic shines are on late model high power/super magnum rifles with precision made tubes.  Only then do you really reap the benefits of a synthetic seal.  I've seen burned or blown through synthetic seals but I've never seen that on a leather one.  Granted most of that is because typical older rifles with leather just don't produce the FPE of newer supermags (and less likely to get detonation hence a blown seal).  By the way, I've had great success using buttons made from pop bottles on the back end of the piston.  I use a sinlge hole punch to make them and then clean the piston with acetone and glue on using gel superglue.  Then you just sand to fit.  Really does smooth out the firing action.  Old school does work!

Just my thoughts.

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Re: QB57 FUN Project
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2010, 01:25:12 PM »


Thanks for the info Andy. I've had this one apart already and I guess Jaymo may have replaced the seals.They are definately synthetic not leather. The piston seal doesn't look too bad but the breach seal has indentations and doesn't look exactly symetrical. But I hope the new parts will give a little more power. We'll see. It's not a big deal since it IS accurate and wil be used strictly for punching paper and exploding lollipops and paintballs.

Crosman/Revelation 760 PumpMaster (Vintage 1967)
Powerline 1000S .177 (semi-tuned by me)
Benjamin Super Streak .177/.22 (semi-tuned by me)
Benjamin Trail NP XL1500 (bone stock)
Benjamin Trail NP XL1100 (project gun)
TF89 .22 (tuned by Gene)
Winchester 1000WS .177 (semi-tuned by muwah)
QB57 (l