Couldn't have said it better myself, ... and a 1st class one too. - I could have told hose folks going to all those meetings with the Feds is a TOTAL waste of time, it's ALL a charade to let folks believe the government wants their "input". Truth is, that's the last thing Uncle wants, - the new/coming policy is already "in place". - Back when I was in commercial fishing we all went to one meeting after another with the Feds. Everyone had a chance to spout off, - and when the dust settled, the Feds/turds did exactly what they had intended to do from day one.