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Offline plateshooter

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Lubricating Pellets
« on: April 13, 2007, 12:40:10 PM »
I have been trying lubricating my pellets with the Liquid Wrench dry lube with PTFE.  I spray some of the lube in the pellet tin, shake them up and let the solvent evaproate as it says in the directions.  Seems to have given me some increase in accuracy and speed, though I havent chronied them yet.  The most noticeable  difference is in my lower powered Delta and B3.  Just wondering if anyone else has tried lubing their pellets as I didnt find anything using the search for these forums.


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Re: Lubricating Pellets
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2007, 01:07:22 PM »
I don't know if you  read my reply on the post about the synthetic pellets or not..:)  The reason why I do not use synthetic pellets is because the springers are designed for lead pellets.. The barrels get seasoned with use.. Lead seals the imperfections and rifleing.. Now this is just my opinion...:) And I also feel the same way about lubricants.. Lube and lead makes for a mess..:) I only put lead pellets in my springers and nothing else....:)

Now on the other hand, the PCP guys use a certain lube that you can buy.. Don't know what it is called but only two drops per tin..:) The reason for this is they say a PCP has not internal lube like a springer but I do not go along with that.. I think it is a preference with the PCP guys but I do not use the oil in my PCP's either..:)

I keep my barrels seasoned and run a patch through them every few thousand shots..:)

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Re: Lubricating Pellets
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2007, 01:10:00 PM »
Ya Mike, glad you mentioned that.. That really is a no no with pellets if you want accuracy.. Some pellets have thin skirts like Gamo Hunter Round nose and there Wadcutters...

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Re: Lubricating Pellets
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2007, 02:28:56 PM »
Ditto what my bud Gene said. A couple dry patch's and she's good to go :) Ed
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RE: Lubricating Pellets
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2007, 10:35:51 PM »
I guess I should have said "roll them around in the tin lightly".  Most of my pellets come via the UPS truck and I'm sure they get much more shaking on their journey here than I give them once they arrive. (except for the BIG journey down range).  I also dry patch my barrels every tin or so unless I get some extra dirty pellets, then I use the Goo Gone as CDT suggests when I see a build up of crud.  One thing I have learned from building and shooting powder burners for 40+ years is that every gun is a world unto itself.  No two are the same.  I'll get the chrony out this weekend and see if there is a difference in velocity on my individual rifles since the  last time I checked them and post it here if anyone is interested.  I can say for sure there is a difference in accuracy on two of them with the dry lube.  Now, if the sun will come up, I can get to some shooting  :)

Edit to add, the pellets are very dry when the solvent evaporates.  I do turn the open tin over on a paper towel when they are wet, and almost all of the dust and other "dirt" ends up on the towel.  You can't see or feel the lube on the pellets, and my fingers  dont come out gray after shooting them.  Just thought I would throw that in.
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RE: Lubricating Pellets Some Numbers
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2007, 02:07:20 AM »
Here is some info from the Chrony.  Lube vs Non Lube.

Gamo 440 - CPHP -14fps, Gamo Match WC -43fps Tomahawks -26fps  Lube not good for Gamo 440

Crosman Phantom CPHP -5fps didnt have previous results for other pellets. basically no change for Phantom.

Quest 800 - 22, basically no change

Gamo Delta -   CPHP -24fps,  Gamo Match WC +24fps. Down 24fps with one, up 24fps with the other.  Hmmmm.

Cummings B3 -  CPHP  +78fps (wow!!) GAMO match WC +84fps, (wow again!!)

This is no scientific study as it was 27 degrees here this morning when I did the measuring. It was 55 degrees when I did the first test.   The before numbers were from about a month ago, and the rifles have been shot alot during that time.

Great improvement on the B3, the others pretty much stayed the same or went down a bit.
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RE: Lubricating Pellets
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2007, 05:30:56 AM »
I just started using a lube in my higher power air rifles to cut down on bore leading.  I came across this in three different places.  It is a mixture of 1/3 to 1/2 STP engine oil treatment to 2/3 to 1/2 Hoppes no. 9 gun oil.  I put a few drops in the tin, let the tin sit upside down, right side up and on edge for a day or so to make sure all the pellets are evenly coated and then I roll them gently on a micro fibre cloth to remove all but a thin coating of the mixture.  Reports i have read indicate fps may go up a little, bore fouling is lessened and accuracy is more easily maintained especially with a Crossman Premier pellet, which apparently due to the compound mix will lead the bore more most.

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Re: Lubricating Pellets
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2009, 08:29:31 AM »
See the info on Napier Pellet lube on http://www.airgunsofarizona.com

I don't think I'd put any stuff on the pellet that I wouldn't use in the bore of the gun...
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Re: Lubricating Pellets
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2009, 11:43:05 PM »
Don't use them.  I bought some from AOA last week and tried them out on my HW97 and Cyclone.  Absolute poison for the HW.  Did OK with the Cyclone but won't use them anymore.  

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Re: Lubricating Pellets
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2009, 12:48:24 PM »
Hi Paul....I just deleted your double post...the one without the photo.

I've read you don't need to lube the pellets for a springer because a very small amount goes down the barrel with the shot from the compression chamber....don't know if this is true or not.  But if lubing the pellets makes the pellet faster, cleaner and/or more accurate....go right ahead.

As for PCP's.....I've read also that some shooters will lube a few pellets and shoot them to lube the barrel every 1000 or so shots since there's no grease residue that comes out with the air.  Maybe this way the interior of the barrel would be less susceptible to rusting.
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Re: Lubricating Pellets
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2009, 08:30:13 AM »
Thanks Stan for deleting my double post.  That lube in my HW97 made sounds I've never heard of before and shot all over the place.  Maybe it will be different for someone else but I'll never use it again on any of my springers.       Paul
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Re: Lubricating Pellets
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2009, 06:54:37 AM »
I actually wash all my pellets to remove the grease the manufacturer uses on them. I read somewhere on this site it was a good idea. I've never done a test to see if it was giving me any sort of benefit, but I would theorize that it keeps the bore cleaner and allows for a better build up of clean lead inside the barrel.
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