Ok gta fam, I didn't mean to cause a storm on the subject, and I agree 100 percent with every reply to this thread. I love my RX-2, and I know that Weihrauch puts out a quality product. I reckon I'm just looking to find out what I can expect in the .20 cal R1-80 shooter,... Be it a Beeman or an HW labeled rifle. Thanks for the heads up guys!! tjk