Epoxy??

[michael90t]

Anyone know a good local (like hardware chain or the like) source of some bulk 2 part epoxy???

I plan on piller and glass bedding the action on my project and it would be nice(not to mention alot cheaper) if I could find some... Fiberglass epoxy is ok but it tends to "sugar" after awhile.... guess I am looking for something more like bulk jbweld....

[howie1a]

JBL weld can be used or go to a boat supply and get marine tex they will also have a 2 part marine epoxy too You can thicken epoxy with talkum powder if needed. and epoxy cleans up and can be thinned with alcohol. I used to work in a boat yard and we repaired wood boats  and  other things. Howie

[shady816]

marine tex is a good epoxy type compound with good sandable finish i have used it alot and not to mention very stronge.

[airiscool]

Fine saw dust from a sander or band saw makes a good filler and reduces the weight of the epoxy.

Paul.

[joe-joe guns]

You can find a product called pour-on at Menards.It's basicly a 2 part urathane epoxy.costs about 50 per gallon.I've bought some other silver 2-part stuff there thats a lot thicker but can't remember the name,it make about a half pint total and it sets up kinda rubbery feeling but still hard if you know what I mean.

[airiscool]

".........some other silver 2-part stuff there thats a lot thicker but can't remember the name,it make about a half pint total and it sets up kinda rubbery feeling but still hard if you know what I mean. ......."

Do you mean "Liquid Steel"?  If so, it's one of the first "filled" two part epoxies commercially available. Been around since the 60's that I know of. It's filled with aluminum powder. May add quite a bit of weight to the gun. Saw dust, or micro ballooms are much lighter than epoxy and will reduce how much  weight is added to the gun. The micro balloons are used in fiberglass boat part construction such as rudders to make them strong yet nuetrally bouyant to take strain off rubber pintals and gudgeons.

Paul.

[michael90t]

Thanks for the imput guys!!! I found this also for those that need a good amount of epoxy

http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(gfixodm2xxqhsn45vyy00f55)/ProductDetails.aspx?SKU=88089

10 ounces for around 10 bucks.... thats a pretty good buy and its jbweld too! thats plenty to bed most any action

so now I just have to decide what I am going to use :)

[kiwi]

Why not use marine fairing compound...its a powder you mix with
either epoxy or polyester resin..can be mixed to what ever comsistancy
you require...easy to sand

[michael90t]

Honestly when your bedding an action you do not want something easy to sand or soft.. the bedding takes all of the vibration and recoil stress and anything that is soft or easy to work with WILL powder out or crack and crumble( called sugering in gumsmithing terms..)

Gunsmiths used to use(some still do) fiberglassing/marine epoxies (hence the term glass bedding a reciever) but under the heavier recoiling rifles you will find this stuff will suger after a few years of use.... Brownells sells some great epoxies called acraglas that can be dyed and/or mixed withmetals but its 30 bucks for 4 ounces....jbweld is strong(machinable strong) metel embedded and now I found you can buy it in 10 ounces for 10-15 bucks...

Honestly it may be overkill to worry about recoil in a AG but looking at the damage they do to scopes... My thinking is I want as high a strength material as I can find/afford

[airiscool]

Not sure you should base bedding/not bedding on how many AG scopes die.

I suspect that much of the problem with AG "recoil" killing scopes has more to do with the low quality of most of the scopes being sold as "AG rated", than the amount of recoil the AG's can produce.

There is only so much quality can be built into scopes as cheap as most that are being used on AG's. When I see inexpensive scope manufacturers can send out ALOT of replacement scopes under warrentee, that tells me there is alot of differance between what the scope actually cost to make and what it sells for. Otherwise they'd go broke.

Paul.

[howie1a]

Micro balloons are used for fairing because it is softer to sand but cabasill  is a hard filler for either epoxy or polyester resin epoxy is what you want to use it is stronger than polyester and will not crack as far as sugaring you will have to shoot an huge to have any ware show up. the only thing about epoxy is it needs to have a ultra violet inhibitor since sun will cause it to chalk . Howie