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Offline SDale

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Evolution of the Airgunner
« on: April 19, 2010, 01:06:19 PM »

Has anyone ever noticed that almost all of us started out hunting and plinking with a BB or Pellet gun in our boyhood years? Slowly but surely moving up to rimfres, then larger caliber rifles and pistols only to get bored with them. Or get tired of the cost and work invlolved. Then finally we arrive full circle... Back where we started.

Once we return to airgunning, everything is right in the world until that first flyer... Then the frustration sets in! "WHY isn't this as accurate as my .22 sumthin sumthin???"  or "my .270?" or whatever... We forget our youth and the "JUST SHOOT IT AND HAVE FUN" attitude. We tweak, search, experiment and frustrate ourselves to the point of finding GTA in hopes that someone will provide an answer to the question: "Why in the heck do I keep going through scopes?!?!?!  I've put on 3 different $500 Leupolds and they ALL broke!!!"

After a few weeks on the GTA, we're all pseudo experts and once we LEARN what fuels these pieces of machinery. The little intricacies of how and why they work... AIRGUNITIS sets in!!! New guns!!! New Mods!!! TUNES!!!

GOD HELP US ALL!!!  


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RE: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2010, 01:18:23 PM »
That's when we go out and buy a cheap shooter and just shoot it as is, no tweaking, no mod's not even a scope if it has iron sight's. Just shoot it as is and ignore that little voice inside that tells us that it need's a scope and I'll just change the piston seal or just a debur and lube. LOL if I could only do that but the only way would be to have the wife put it under lock and key when not in use to keep me from pulling it apart to tune it. C'mon honey I just wanted to wipe it down in the shop I promise lol hehehe. Ed
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Re: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2010, 02:29:44 PM »
yep, I think you about covered everything!. Airgunitis, I'm glad I have it and really glad I am not the only one :)

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RE: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2010, 07:58:22 PM »


LOL Shadow I think thats why I enjoy my sons B-3 so much... its tuned up good but old industry brand no scope possible... just good old crappy iron sights...so simple and fun and truely challenging!



I got a feeling that even with all the work I am putting into my project B-3 when it comes down to just plinking I will be graabing the boys more often then not LOL


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Re: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2010, 10:02:13 PM »
T'is a vicious cycle! Then the addiction just grows stronger, and stronger, and........tjk
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RE: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2010, 10:41:43 PM »
Very true Sam,

"..........Then finally we arrive full circle... Back where we started.  ............"  Been through years of  22 rimfires, centerfires, shotguns, and now back to BB and pellets.

As Ed says, after all the mods and fussing with them, the simple ones are fun .......again.  It's now more than 50 years ago I started out shooting my Grandfather's  Daisy 25, and it's still fun to shoot. Open sites, rattles, rust, and all.

And, as my Grandfather originally bought it for back in the 1920's,  it can still teach the pesky nutters to stay out of the bird feeder !!!!! :D

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RE: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2010, 11:28:34 PM »
Someone once said something like "The only interesting rifles are accurate rifles."  He was right.

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RE: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2010, 12:48:07 AM »
Ah, but define accuracy, Tommy :-).  Some aren't satisfied with Olympic caliber performance, while others are thrilled to be able to hit the broad side of a barn, from inside the barn!  Like most things, it's relative :-).

My evolution as a shooter is a little odd.  I got a brand new Daisy Model 21 for Christmas when I was 10.  For those unfamiliar, that was the double barrel shotgun model.  For those interested in such things, they're worth around $1000 now.  Anyway, that one disappeared before my birthday the next June, did something my mother considered unacceptable and never saw it again.  No guns of any sort until I joined the Navy at 17.  Bought a used Ruger Blackhawk in .41 Mag, and that started my love affair with large bore handguns.  Enjoyed shotguns as well, but never really got into rifles.  A few rimfires here and there, and one brief period of self abuse with a .444 Marlin, but that was about it.  So fast forward another 25 years, the guns have pretty much gone away.  Lived in Seattle, and it was just too much hassle and expense, especially if you were a handgunner.  And once I moved to a place where it wasn't a hassle, just too many other things going on, and no money to spare on "toys".  Oh, I bought another .22 and a 12 ga., but neither ever got shot, so both got sold.

Then we moved again, and now I have room for a nice big garden, and my wife finally gets to have her chickens.  But predators like chicken dinners, and cats like to use garden beds as litter boxes, so something needed to be done.  That "something" ended up being a Gamo CFX, and suddenly a rifleman was born :-).  Went from the CFX to an HW 77 over the next couple of years, then went to the Dark Side.  Stayed there almost exclusively for the next 2-3 years, and then just recently, sold off all my PCP's and went back to springers.  The current collection consists of a Gamo CFX, a Diana 34, a Beeman R9 GF, and a TX 200 Mk. III, all in .177.

So where do I go from here?  Tuning, of course.  Sometime in the next week or two, I'll be making a trip to Bellingham to pick up a brand new Grizzly 10x22 lathe, after that, we'll just have to wait and see.  I've satisfied myself that I can shoot as well as I want or need to, so that part of it really isn't the challenge it used to be.  But I've found that I enjoy working on these things almost as much as shooting them, so it's time to take this hobby in a different direction.  So I intend spending the next few months seeing how many mistakes I can make on my own guns, maybe buy some beaters to overhaul and resell.  I've learned a lot over the last few years, the main thing being, I still have a hell of a lot to learn!  But it's all good, and it's (almost) all been fun, so stay tuned.  Later.

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RE: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2010, 01:54:03 AM »


My journey has been the opposite. Started with muzzle loaders (.58 Zouave musket) and a Mossberg 320B I "inherited" from a high school pal who went into the service. Shot them a little bit and they mostly sat around for a number of years. Dropped out of my club, then rejoinged when I got into shooting more in the 80's/90's, but then had eye problems causing me to sell my heavy recoilers (.30-06, .43 Spanish Rolling Block, shotguns) and I concentrated on rimfires. Got an air gun to shoot indoors. Now have more air guns than rimfires. One day I will pare it waaaaay down to just a couple. Life's too short and, eventually, I'll probably end up in a condo with little storage space.



As for the "The only interesting gun is an accurate gun" well, I've never been too fond of that old chestnut. Some guns aren't terribly accurate but sure are interesting. For example, smooth bore muskets like the Brown Bess and Indian trade guns. If such were the case, we would all be shooting ten meter guns.


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Re: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2010, 02:03:27 AM »
Hate to admit I am an aberration. I never took up the powder-burning to any real extent. I did shoot a shotgun here or there but never took up shooting rifles(unless it was a friend's). Still don't "hunt" per se. Oh I rid the world of tree rats that are invading homes but no real "hunting".

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Re: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2010, 08:35:34 AM »
its a terrible addiction that grows worse with time lol not counting the excuses we have to make to the wives why we need anothe one  , she dosen't know yet that it never ends!!!!      david
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RE: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2010, 11:52:08 AM »


I started with Daisies and then a Sheridan... but only 'cause my dad wouldn't let me shoot the20 ga.out the window at pigeons (it was a Model 12, still have it).



I was obsessed with guns from birth. I liked anything that shot, but especially WWII military. I grew up with some decent sporting guns but bought a Mauser as soon as I was old enough. After that, anything with a Waffenamt proof stamp was fair game.



(Oddly enough, one of my 2nd or 3rd acquisitions was a .43 Spanish Rolling Block carbine. Much later, I got the companion full-size Argentine .43 Rolling Block and whacked a deer with it back in Michigan. I also have a .50 rolling block pistol that was handed down through the family, and you could call me a rolling block fan, except I am not a reloader.)



Leter I started upgrading my hunting arsenal. I got into handgun hunting. I took up archery for deer.



Then, I moved to Kalifornia and a really full time job. End of hunting and shooting, for several years.



Suddenly, I rediscovered air. Whee, I can shoot after work, I can shoot in the yard. So, I bought a bigger yard. More yard, more air guns. I have sworn off a couple of times but they keep coming out with new ones. Plus, I feel sorry for some of the old ones, and I still like historical stuff. And I tinkered with a couple of cheapiesand made them slightly better. Oops, need more tools, compressor, etc. and a bigger gun cabinet to augment the safe....



I haven't shot a powder burner in years, but I love to take them out of the safe and tell stories about them to whomever will listen (no one, usually). There are only about 5 airguns on my wish list this year.

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RE: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 01:34:47 PM »


All the different stories !



I started off at age 6 learning shooting skills from my dad. He had a Benjamin 130 in 177 cal. and when he started teaching me gun safety and proper shooting techniques, I went to air gun heaven !



After he was happy that I had learned to shoot safely, he bought me a Crosman 140 22 cal. air rifle, now I felt that I was on top of the world !



In the coming years my dad bought me other air guns, and finally a 22 rim fire rifle, a Marlin 57, and in the following years many center fire and rim firerifles, pistols and shotgunshave been added, traded and sold. But I have always had at least one air gun to shoot in the basementor backyard.



And now that I am unable to compete with my shooting friends, I enjoy shooting my air guns ! They have always been there for me when I needed to relax and enjoy shooting :)



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RE: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2010, 01:25:03 PM »
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TCups - 4/20/2010  5:28 AM

Someone once said something like "The only interesting rifles are accurate rifles."  He was right.


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RE: Evolution of the Airgunner
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2010, 03:47:10 PM »


I started around the tender age of 5 with an old dan wesson .22 target revolver(still have it...) loaded with blanks and aluminum foil balls and it just went from there.... always had abb gun or powder burner orbow or other type of projectile laucher around... had a crosman 760 pumpmaster a crosman 1377 and I THINK it was a marksman single pump that looks just like a ar-15/m16 growing up as far as bb/pellet guns went.... think I got my first shotty around 8-9 was astevens breakbarrel 20 guage and got my first rifle a marlin model 60 when I was maybe 11 years old...... bought my first pistol a ruger MK1 when I was 16 lol and it has just kept going from there....





But to answer the actual question lol yup... after my preteen years I didnt shoot airguns much at all except for a couple ground nutters when I was 16 at my g-mas house one summer(with the B3 my dad gave my oldest boy BTW...) it was powder burners.... but now my boy has started shooting I am pulled back into the simplicity of setting up in the back yard and shooting whenever we want... AND as far as shooting goes.... its about trigger time.... its not important what your shooting as long as your shooting!!!!





One thing I have learned in life is keep hold and take care of your guns.... you can get quiet a collection over a few years without really meaning to :)