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Offline michael90t

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Miserable day of shooting
« on: April 28, 2010, 08:33:45 PM »


Or..."If it aint one thing its another....."



Ok so the metalwork on the project B3 is done.... threw the girl into her poor stripped down wood stock and mounted up the3-9x40AO centerpoint into the leapers accushot bi-directional one piece mount and... oh wait... WTF?? Good thing I noticed that the yoke on this mount is VERY shallow and does not leave enough room to clear the bottom of the adjustment block.... makes me wonder how many scopes have been busted with these mounts from people tightening the rings down and literallybending the scope!!! the adjustment block on the centerpoint scope is not really thick on the bottom either!!!!! I honestly don't see anyway to mount ANYscope to this mount without shimming the whole scope up so it doesn't touch.... (anyone using this mount I would suggest checking to make sure there is clearance underneath the turret block It seems to be a pretty popular mount so..... maybe I got a bad one dunno) Ok so 4 thick shims later, 2 in front and 2 in back, scopes mounted... Mirror test and put into center of its adjustment... fire a pellet no clue.... fire another.... no clue not even on paper at 10 yards??? argh.... check the muzzle brake yup clipping oh well not at the shop so I just pull it... no biggie figured it might happen will open it up later lol..... shoot again there it is.. gun isn't really patterning well but figure its just needs time to settle in no biggie.... move my target out to 15 yards and start sighting it in..... horrible group and they are not getting any better.. if anything worse.... AND its now from a few inches low to 5 inches high..... ARGH reverse droop!!!! was bad but I thought I had gotten it pretty good in the shop with my barrel vise..... guess not... wooden slats in a bed frame and some elbow grease and yup there she is... pattern still not good at all



Check the mount.... yup it had slipped alittle so I tighten it back down and everything seems to be fine for a few then starts all over again... now it would shoot 3-4 pellets into one little hole then would get a flier that would literally be 3-5 inches out... then maybe a couple more flyers all random then shoot another really tight pattern back at zero..... REALLY weird behavior... got so frustrated after about 100 shots I pulled the scope maybe its busted...(nope no more creeping it was onsolid this time) put it on my boys 66 powermaster and bang 10 shots 15 yards with the cheapo pumper and one small ragged hole.... ok now I am getting frustrated.... crown is perfect no rubbing no residue build up on one side or another.... just a nice perfectly even haze as it should be..... I could think of nothing that could be causing it!! tried different pellets gun just would not group...... moved to some heavier 7.9 grain cphps these have got to shoot right??? I mean there isn't a gun that WONT shoot these pretty well...... they are worse then the beemans and the cheap daisies!!!! wont pattern at all!!! literally 4 inch groups at 15 yards???



Meanwhile my poppa had come out of his house(we are neighbors) and joined me with his whisper.... neither one of us can make heads or tails out of the situation its just so random!!!!!



Started staring at the gun cussing it and eyeballing some trees that are nearby wondering which one would winif I started swinging the gun at them and noticed the breech seal looked odd and misshapen already(it was a brand new one) so got out a faucet washer and tried that.... well when I closed the breech and opened it back up it had cut a half moon out of the washer about a heavy 1/8 low..... apparently the barrel does not line up with the compression chamber at all.... it comes in really low through the block... and its not getting a good seal and bits of the seal are getting ate up and thrown down the barrel as well..... put the stock seal back in and rotated it 180 degrees and bang 20 or so rounds into one little hole then started flying all over again and sure enough nother chunk cut out of the seal and the cone shaped sealdeformed to the other side... .... ok this seems simple enough fix..HOPE I can make a seal using tube and it will mash into the shape the gun needs to seal up right....... to bad all my tubing is at my GF's house in my workshop..... and if that doesn't work I have no idea what to do......





*&@#&^@*&#!!!!!!!!!!!! (that was dad..)



look over and pops had just taken a shot and was trying to recock the whisper and the sear isn't catchingnow (bone stock) well hell...... he goes in pulls the whisper out of the stock and yup.... broke spring..... new whisper less then 3 months old... maybe 3-4 tins of pellets through her and broke spring already?????? so after 6 hours of shooting and about300 pellets through the b3 trying to figure out the problem and dads whisper breaks too.......





Yea it was a bad day all around....


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RE: Miserable day of shooting
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 01:51:34 AM »
Are you saying the barrel doesn't line up with the compression chamber seal?  

Have you posted pictures of the completed gun?  Anxious to see it after all of the earlier angst!

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RE: Miserable day of shooting
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2010, 02:32:18 AM »


yup exactly what I am saying... seems the barrel is a heavy 1/8 or so low and basically smashes the bottom of the stock cone shaped seal well off center!!





Nope have not taken a pic yet lol! will here in a few though just be warned the stock is ugly as all get out because its just stripped wood right now!! plan on adjusting some lines and adding some wood here and there to lenghten the LOP and raise the cheeckpeice a bit... think I will add some meat the the grip area too as It almost feels like a old strieightstocked english gun and I never liked that feel on anything but a shotgun.... I have SERIOUSLY considered laminating some wood together and loping off the whole back of the gun and redoing it :) dunno though... lol I am not a wood worker and where retouching some lines and adding alittle meat here and there sounds ok redoing the whole rear of the stock sounds like a big project to me :)


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RE: Miserable day of shooting
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 04:27:03 AM »


update: put a new breach seal in it and took it back out.... goups shrank alittle at firstbut its still ALL over the place and seems to be geting worse... really starting to think maybe the scope is bad..... going to pull it apart this weekend and take a look inside again make sure everything seems to be healthy then monday I believe me and pops will pull the scope off his whisper since itsdown for the momentand we KNOW that scope is shooting well and see what happens...



really thinking the scope is bad and only shot good on my boys pumper when we tested it because there is no recoil to shake it around.... will see soon enough I guess LOL!


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Re: Miserable day of shooting
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 06:24:10 AM »
we will see for sure kiddo,OH did I mention the 10$ surcharge on scope use& 5 handeling fee (shoot I don't get half my scope's back) got too pay for trigger & tune kit some how boy!?!! it's going too be fun getting pellet's in under a 54mm len's sniper scope that's as long as your rifle & 30mm tube to boot, we will see( chewing gum & a pencil maybe hmmm.)
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Re: Miserable day of shooting
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 08:42:08 AM »
HAHAHAH as long as that scope is in its normal mount it will probably hang PAST the loading port.... :)