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Offline rocker1

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RE: Anyone have a change of heart on hunting?
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2010, 09:06:38 PM »
mr. red i lost my will to hunt in 1971 i want go into why . other than a short trip with a kiwi to go pig hunting which i survived about 9 years ago i don't kill anything thats not threating me or family. i can tell you i have all sorts of arms from 22s to a 300 magnum i have had them for years and hardley every shoot them but they are not for sale. every now and then i will wipe the dust off them and go out back and put a few rounds through them. i shoot my air rifles almost everyday  and have killed multitudes of cans and bottle caps and i injoy it very much.  just because you have a weapon dosen't mean you have to kill , this is a fine sport and there are a lot of things to shoot at that aren't living so please don't don't give up this hobby that you injoy. i quess we all get on here and *_*_*_*_*_* and grumble that a certain rifle want shoot right or want do this or that but in reality  thats what these forums are for.   i am a lot like big bill i almost shot a oreo cookie the other day so don't give up on this hobby . thanks david
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Re: Anyone have a change of heart on hunting?
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2010, 02:39:23 AM »
I'm not much of a killer unless it becomes a necessity.  I had this idea a long time ago to give the thrill of the hunt to the tree huggers.  Who knows, it's probably already been done, like the rest of my great ideas :).  The scope image is mirrored out to a small camera somehow, while still being able to look down the scope.   As a blank round goes off inside the chamber (with adequate recoil to require decent gun control), it triggers the camera.   The camera takes an image of the prey and the crosshairs / mildot hold / whatever..  This way you'd still get the fun of the hunt, the feel and sound of the weapon, and would still need the one-shot-one-kill discipline since the blank would scare everything away.  Your camera image would show (after trigger pull / recoil) if you still had a "kill" shot on the game, without all the blood and suffering and death and what not.

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RE: Anyone have a change of heart on hunting?
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2010, 05:38:53 AM »
That's a little extreme in my eyes. I felt bad about the first squirrel then as I collected 4 more with plans to eat them I didn't care as much then when I cooked them! Holy cow all the care was gone. Squirrels are good I will continue to hunt.

If you don't like hunting then just target shoot. Shooting steel is alot of fun. Trying to figure out more impressive shots everytime. It's good times. I woulldnt sell your stable yet or all of it for that matter.

On another note does the big cat have a steel trigger? If so dibs if you can do paypal. Lol
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Re: Anyone have a change of heart on hunting?
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2010, 06:05:15 AM »
Red, The best way to "ruin" a potential hunter is to allow them to go hunting with an underpowered  tool that fails to kill quickly and efficiently. I've seen this happen all of my life with well intentioned but sadly misinformed mentors (usually Dad's, uncles and brothers) who encouraged  the young charges to go afield with underpowered (usually a .410 shotgun) hunting guns. Their reasoning being that the shooter friendly, mild recoiling .410 is more appropriate for kids and small frame shooters. After all, hasn't the .410 shotgun  been touted by many outdoor writers as a great "first" gun for the youths for many decades they reason? Well the sad but real truth is because it's a lighter payload and has a more limited effective killing range a novice hunter is more likely to not kill but rather simply wound and not recover the squirrel  they shoot at with it.When a novice or young shooter shoots at live game and doesn't quickly dispatch the quarry the result can be trumatic and emotionally scarring to the point of hunting becoming a huge turn-off    The real truth is the .410 shotgun is better suited to a veteran shooter (expert) who knows the limitations of his gun and carefully selects which shots to take. The exact same principle applies to our beloved air rifles. We all know how effective a well placed shot from any mid power airgun can be on small game such as squirrels.But all veteran airgunners acknowledge the limitations that are inherent in a low energy projectile. We know we have to be pretty much perfect with our shot or things can get messy. In hunting situations with low energy air rifles, our personal discipline in shot selection is CRUCIAL if we are to maintain our dignity and perhaps our sanity as hunters. I guess what I'm trying to say is shake it off and learn something positive and not something negative from this bad experience. Low energy air rifles and we all love them I know, are wonderful for target shooting and even hunting but all veteran airgunners should encourage newcomers to this sport to complete a proper hunter safety course and get educated  and confident before taking any shots at live targets.We can see what happens when babes are thrown to the wolves and none of us want to see that happen. Whenever we airgunners consider shots at live targets we should be mindful of the moral and ethical implications of taking life.We need a good reason to pull that trigger or we can't really call ourselves Sportsman. Don't feel badly though for very long. Dust yourself off and get back in the race. The best hunters I've ever known were wise stewards of their resource and were likewise very knowledgeable about the natural world they tromped around in.They understood the circle of life and the role they played in it. They were people you would admire if you could spend a little time with. They had an advantage in that they came from rural areas and had been raised in semi-agricultural wooded areas where hunting was as natural as growing up.Hard to get that kind of background if you live in the city I suppose. It is my sincere hope that you won't be so traumatized by this potential life changing event that you become an anti-hunter but rather instead blossom  into a woods wise expert on all things hunting. Here's a good tip. If you haven't already, join (TODAY), The National Rifle Association.You'll be glad you did.

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RE: Anyone have a change of heart on hunting?
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2010, 06:05:45 AM »
I have hunted most of my life. I gave it up. If is a hunter thats fine I suport hunting and hunters rigts. It just not for me any more. I'll stick to the target.

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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2010, 06:56:15 AM »
Maybe Ill stew on this a bit.
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2010, 09:02:51 AM »
Stew on it for a while then shoot targets again. No shame in being a bad a$$ target shooter. There's planty of them here too.

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RE: Anyone have a change of heart on hunting?
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2010, 09:48:07 AM »
well said, Ed i agree...

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RE: Ive read every post here and i appreiciate the insights...
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2010, 01:28:11 PM »
PLEASE do. Shadow said it best.
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