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Why would we allow this?
« on: May 26, 2010, 04:10:39 PM »


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/25/community-board-votes-support-plans-mosque-cultural-center-near-nycs-ground/

I can't even to begin to express my anger over this!

Before some argue for the freedom of religion, assembly, or the like, there is such a thing as common sense. Or, is there such a thing in this country anymore?

I have no respect for those who planned and allowed the building of a mosque on ground zero. And, to hold the opening on the anniversary of 9/11. Am I to believe those responsible are advocating Islam as tolerate and peaceful?

I see this as nothing less than an assault on the respect deserved by the tragedy of New York and this country as a whole.



Way to go Muslim leaders New York! Instead of building a mosque, how about publicly and genuinely denouncing the aggression of the extremists?

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Re: Why would we allow this?
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2010, 06:57:34 PM »
That is beyond word's for me Stephen at least word's that the filter here wouldn't delete!we truely are sad to even think of such a thing & if it's allowed I pray to my GOD that it is destroyed in a way that is as destuctive to way of life as they did us,Then we can dance in the street's as they did!!!But police would not protect us as they did them ,They would arrest us instead!!!such a sad commentary of our country's twisted P.C.,bend over backward's to every one but us way.
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RE: Why would we allow this?
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2010, 07:21:51 PM »


It is twisted, Jay.

They tear down the Cross in the Mojave Nation Preserve, send kids home wearing U.S. flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo, remove the Ten Commandments monument on the lawn of an Oklahoma courthouse, even remove "In God We Trust" from some of our currency...yet, we further insult our own country by allowing a religion to build a  "place of worship" right on top of the very place Americans (Muslims, too) where killed in the name of that very religion. A religion who leaders, has never been vocal on any sort of meaningful disapproval of such acts.



Think they would allow a Japanese memorial 10 years after Pearl Harbor?



And, another question? What do you think the city will have to pay for the extra security of that mosque? I am sure the people of New York are going to love knowing there tax dollars are going to be used for that!



I also wanted to state, this in no way demeans many law abiding, God-fearing, and respectful people who worship Islam. It is not the fault of a religion, but the perverted interpretation of man that is at fault. But, where is the compassion to understand that maybe a better place would be in order to build one's mosque? As a Roman catholic, I certainly would understand apprehension of the public if the Church decided to get into the day care business these days! Some wounds need to heal. Whether the unpopular climate for Islam in our country is right or wrong, I am dumbfounded by the lack of insight and compassion.



It's just common sense. And, we don't have much anymore, I guess.

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Re: Why would we allow this?
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2010, 10:11:41 PM »
I make NO back step for being a follower of Christ,I have been in those country's when they fought russian troop's,I've trained them, ate with them,I've been back even before this war started with us !! They hated us then,they hate us now,not only because we are the U.S. but because we follower's of christ are infidel's and BY the law's of islam we must be converted or gotten rid of so that they may bring back a suppossed world of peace.You must judge a way of life by the major number of the follower's & from what I saw & watched them do an heard what they say I believe they will not stop,it has not for thousand's of year's for them,some are at peace with us yes & I do believe all should follow what they believe freely,but not at MY cost there has to be a line drawn some where,we as a people & a country are about lost that is the sad fact's.like you said common sense,which we are lacking is what we need.A tree may bend to the wind but if the base of it is weakened or broken all is lost,we have allowed our branch's to spread to far to cover to much an our base is cracking before our very eye's,when do we as a people trim them back to save the majority? And brother I still enjoy your humor, catholic church & day care, I'm sorry but that is funny to my old redneck!!!
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Re: Why would we allow this?
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2010, 03:22:51 AM »
This is outrageous even by my tolerable standards.
It's like a slap in the face.

The only way muslims could apologize for 9/11 is if, all moderate muslims gathered in masses out in the streets protesting against extremist Islam.

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Re: Why would we allow this?
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2010, 07:29:33 AM »


Everyone should read the words of Jay, There are NO moderate Muslims !!!!



You have only on choice, become a Muslim or DIE !!!!



Muhammad started this practice by going to all the tribal Arabs , if the converted, they lived, if NOT they DIED !



No one will be given any other choice. Atheist and Agnostics will also be KILLED ! Read your history of Islam and understand your enemy !



Everyone will convert, or be put to the sword !!!!



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Re: Why would we allow this?
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2010, 09:22:34 AM »
Big Bill you are right everyone should READ what the book of islam SAY's,not just wonder or believe that it is a following of peace,because it is NOT!!! It is the LAW to destroy all who do not follow his way's,Without excepsion,Have we forgotten what jihad mean's!! It was thrust at me with a vengeance,but for the LOVE of my GOD( an the use of weapon's)I would not of came home safe, They wanted our supply's yes,but they truely HATED us as a people of CHRIST. I've read even on here people say,Well maybe we should chop off a hand or two,these people do it on a routine base & if you ever see a person's bone's broken & left too die a slow death you will understand the exstent they will go to control even there own.I would truely like to hear what our young warrior's saw & feel on the matter of this?ANY returning VET's reading this please let me know if the people really loved you?SORRY not jacking the thread a temple to islam at ground zero is still beyond WORD's for me, I just can't picture it being O.K. with anyone?MAYBE I am just a dumb old redneck, who know's.(HOPE you all know what redneck really mean's? again read history)
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Re: Why would we allow this?
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2010, 11:22:48 AM »
I agree with Jay and Big Bill. Being new, I didn't want too come off too strong at first.
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Re: Why would we allow this?
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2010, 02:58:36 PM »


The only reason to build a Mosque, at the 9-11 site, is show the world what will happen to those that do not except Islam !



The only difference between the "radical Muslims" and the Muslims is: The radical Muslims will KILL the Muslims unless they follow the teachings if their interpretation of the Koran .



These tribes (orsects ofMuslims)are willing, and happy to kill anyone that does not believe the exact way that the do, and accept their LEADER as the True Leader of Islam.



Sounds like the Catholics during the Dark Ages, but these people still live in the Dark Ages !



The Bull Shi'ite, is the story our government gives us about winning the hearts and minds of these people, HAY !!! Didn't I hear that about Vietnam ???? boy did they LOVE US !!!!



If you realy want to win wars, you must know your enemy better than he knows himself, or you must go forward, like my favorite General, Genghis Khan, and lay waste to all the lands and people before you !!!!



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Re: Why would we allow this?
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2010, 03:34:55 PM »
Sign of the times brother
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Re: Why would we allow this?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2010, 04:39:50 PM »
MR.Stephen I believe your by line gave you away,even before you ever said that,Take Pride in the fact that you stand for our way's & under the flag of our Christ,For we are surely at the step's of deepest sorrow. And too anyone that take's offence to what I've said,Please go & read the koran(I will not cap.it)then take your butt on over to any muslim country,make it back(not as a muslim)then you may tell me I am wrong!!OH good luck by the way & GOD's speed.P.S If you have never had your a$$ in the grass or your can in the sand,Then you Better thank a VET. this weekend & say a prayer for our fallen Brother's.
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Re: Why would we allow this?
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2010, 05:03:39 PM »
So true, Jay. So true.
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RE: Why would we allow this?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2010, 05:57:01 AM »


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjS0Novt3X4


I thought it was just an idea that will never come to be , seems i'm wrong because it will be soon built.



The city in which it was built was subject to frequent invasion and each  conquering wave added their own mark to the architecture




 The Great Mosque of Cordoba placed its importance amongst the Islamic community of Al-Andalus for three centuries. In Cordoba, the capital of Al-Andalus, the Great Mosque was seen as the heart and central focus of the capital.[5]  The master piece was created by Abd-Al-Rahman in the 8th century.[6]  The mosque’s floor plan is seen to be parallel to some of the earliest mosques built from the very beginning of Islam.[7]  The main hall of the mosque was used for a variety of purposes. It served as a central hall for teaching and to manage law and order within Al-Andalus during the rule of Abd-Al-Rahman.[8]  The Great Mosque had a rectangular prayer hall which had 9-11 aisles standing pendicular to the qibla, the main direction towards which Muslims pray



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mosque_of_C%C3%B3rdoba





And it seems that their designers (page cordobainitiative.com) are fond  of Sharia law, which is an abomination.



In addition to producing The Shariah Index book, comprised of the essays  and deliberations of these scholars, and which provides the Index’s  theoretical foundation, Cordoba will present the Annual State of the  Muslim World Index. This index, which involves a partnership with the  Gallup Organization, polls people from 44 Muslim-majority nations (and  members of the Organization of Islamic Conference) on how well their  nations comply in practice with this Islamic legal benchmark of an  Islamic State.



If i understood this correctly...holy f***, are you kidding me. Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, (Taliban) Afganistan,... are all Islamic States by definition.





Stop this insanity, or i might just have to come down there and torch the wretched thing.



To be honest i'm not particularly religious but if i had to choose...i take Christianity (without the Torah) any day over Islam. Islam is tyranny disguised as religion.







Oh and like the man said...you don't have to think twice about who's paying for it. The very nation that uses our money to bring us down...talk about irony.