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Offline TCups

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Why did the oil rig explode?
« on: May 31, 2010, 03:30:51 AM »
Anyone lend any credence to these stories?  Remember Obama's 1st response? -- sending 30 military SWAT teams to the gulf to "inspect" the other oil rigs.  Hmmm. . .

http://www.intelligencequarterly.com/2010/05/kremlininternet-rumor-north-korea-suicide-torpedos-hit-deep-horizon-oil-platform/

http://www.myvidster.com/video/178607/An_Atomic_Bomb_will_stop_the_Gulf_Oil_Leak_LK_

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RE: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2010, 04:28:30 AM »
My wife says, I'm a conspiracy nut , but I think it was terrorism . We haven't had a problem with the some 30,000 oil wells out there in the gulf until it was finally decided we should put a few more oil wells in other spots that hasn't been so popular . Probably the only thing I'll give Obama credit for is trying to get these continued . (he definitely didn't start the ball , just wanted take credit for keeping it rolling )  Ask yourself this : Who would suffer if the US were able to acquire additional oil supplies . Any new oil added to the world market would drive the price of crude down . I'm convinced there's other acts terrorism that gets blamed on some other reason to keep the American public in the dark . The N. Koreans , hmmmmm I don't think so . More likely an inside suicide job by someone with Muslim connections . Just my conspiracy two cents .  kirby
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Re: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2010, 05:46:36 AM »
I am right there with you David on this one..:) Something stinks about the whole dieal...
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Re: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2010, 05:52:32 AM »
Tommy that clip looked like it was taken back in the lat 50's..
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Re: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2010, 06:53:20 AM »
RE:  1950's clip - don't know the date of the clip, but it sounds plausible that the Russians have successfully used a nuclear device to seal off an out of control well, whenever it was.  And a side shaft i now being drilled into the out of control well at the bottom of the gulf.   Do we think the current admin would let their intent to blow the well shaft with a small tactical nuc be known?   Hmmmm . . .

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Re: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2010, 08:29:58 AM »
LOL Tommy.. I do not think it would happen in today's times.... To many self righteous libs would put a stop to that.. Enviromentalists...
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Re: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2010, 09:34:58 AM »
Not so sure . . .  faced with the disaster at hand and the option of letting the well continue to spill thousands of gallons of oil into the gulf daily vs. a 10 to 15 killo-ton low yield tactical nuke several thousand feet under the ground under the gulf, environmentalists (and general public opinion) would be hard pressed not to support the attempt to stop the leak by whatever means necessary.  Remember the presidential edict?  "Plug the damned hole!"

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Re: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2010, 12:20:08 PM »
I see your point and maybe it would be a good one..:) That means that the fault that runs up from there into norther kalifornia may give way.. Creating a new island.. We could get rid of kalifornia that way...:) Seperated from the main land.. Like Porto Rico " Porto Kali"
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Re: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2010, 02:38:44 PM »
California??? ... Get a HUGE chain saw and cut it free, ...

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Re: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2010, 12:48:06 PM »
North Korea torpedowed a South Korea ship, wht not an oil rig.Stop the FREE PRESS-INTERNET, and then the guns. Vote everyone of them traiters to the constitution out of office.They both wear the same coat,democrats and republicans.What a joke.

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RE: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2010, 03:41:50 PM »
I VERY much think that our government (or some other) blow up that oil rig. The timing is TOO good.

Obama says new oil fields are being opened.
Oil rig fails
Obama postpones new oil fields

He gets credit for BOTH opening and not opening new oil fields. and as a bonus the USA might take over BP, if they can't get it fixed.

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RE: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2010, 04:02:58 PM »


Ha, ha! Pack it full of cornspiracy theories, North Korean mini-subs and nukier weapons. Yeah, that's the ticket!



FWIW, the casing in the well was cracked - read that iffy - they were trying to fix it and the well "blew out". Think about how in the movies when the oil well comes in and starts shooting out the drill string, oil gushing high into the air like a black fountain. In this case, there was a large release of gas. Unrefined natural gas contains many volatiles (butanes, propane, methane, etc) and can burn REALLY HOT. To get an idea of what was belched out and up to the rig on the surface, convert those images of billowing oil clouds at the wellhead into gas bubbles. At a mile down, the pressure keeps the bubbles the size you see on TV, but, as it rises and the pressure falls, the bubbles grow continually bigger - maybe ten times in volume. At the surface, it must have been like being inside a propane tank. Eventually, the gas found an ignition source. That's why the fireboats couldn't put it out. Had that been on land, Red Adaire, Jr. would have dynamited it to starve the fire out. But it was a mile down.



The government has nothing to gain in sabotaging a deep ocean well. C'mon, guys, that oil comes straight to the good old USA and the Texas refineries. Money for everyone, all the way around. And sealing the well with a tactical nuke, well, it would have to be something like a depth charge designed to operate that deep. A regular warhead might not be able to take the pressure and just crap out without detonating. Now, once you do achieve a detonation, you have that nice mushroom cloud and fallout to deal with. Not so friendly to our Caribbean neighbors, much less Floridians. (Aren't they one and the same?) Anyone up for skimming up radioactive oil slicks?  And, please, believe me when I tell you, there are NO SMALL NUKES.



The problem that BP is having, as well as the whole oil exploration/productoin industry, is they are trying to apply surface fixes to a problem five thousand feet down. You would think that, after thirty years of reaping the economic benefits of deep water drilling, the industry would have put as little as one percent of the money into custom-tailored machines and tools/techniques for dealing with this kind of scenario. After all, there have been numerous well failures topside, so why did they think working under hundreds of tons per square inch would be any different? "If I don't think about it, it ain't there."



Now, all of you conspiracy theorists, Libertarians and, especially, MODERATORS, please put this HIGHLY POLITICAL discussion over on the R&P where it should rightly reside.  :D


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RE: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2010, 04:36:13 PM »


Well Red,



We have two trains of thought, one proposes someone caused the detonation a of very safe oil rig, and wonders what caused it.



The other side accepts everything that the government and press tells them.



Now I choose to look at things from all sides before making a decision !



It seems very unlikely that this all occurred just as BO was opening the path to oil wells ! Something that He strongly opposes ?



And with all the oil wells that BP has, how could they be so stupid with a billion dollar oil well?



It also seems suspicious that they keep performing techniques that fail so miserably ? I would think that they must have better information than they do ? After all they do have the skills and information to drill a oil well at one mile ?



Or just follow the money ? Where does it lead, and why ???



Could this be a wright off for BP ? Or the start of a new oil inflationary spiral ?



Ask ALL the questions and see where they lead ?



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RE: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2010, 04:51:02 PM »


The well had problems. Wells often have problems. This one was at five thousand feet. BP tried to fix it and had the same level of success as their later band-aid measures. Anyone familiae with oil wells can tell you that it is not uncommon for drill bits to get stuck, pipe strings to break, etc. Bad enough on the surface, but catastrophic (in this case) when it occurs at great depths.



Now, this is really a politically charged thread. Ninety percent of it doesn't even belong on the Back Room. As a moderator, you should not be contributing to it, calling the President "BO", or extending it. Sorry if that ruffles your feathers, but I don't come here (to the Back Room) to talk politics.


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RE: Why did the oil rig explode?
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2010, 04:51:09 PM »
I have to agree that this thread belongs in R & P. Please continue the conversation there.
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