My Talon Mini-SS project ( kinda long)

[kirby999]

Ever since I first shot my 18" barrel Talon and heard the report I wished I had gotten another SS . I've grown to like quietness in a  pellet rifle . But to do so without added something that could possibly be removed and put on another gun is a no no. To get the Talon close to the SS would take some changing. I didn't realize when buying the Talon that the frame was shorter by almost 5" . That extra part of the frame with a 12" barrel is what gives the SS a shrouded configuration and a quieter shot , a lot quieter . So I ordered a 12" barrel and an end cap like what comes on the SS. Total cost $114 . Then when I got it , I sat down after reading on the Talon owners web sight and decided to utilize that space between the barrel bushings.  I bought myself a drill press about a month ago, to do some airgun projects and this would be my first big project I would tackle. I drilled five holes and counter sunk them in the front barrel bushing to allow air (or CO2) to pass through the bushing , adding addition space for the air to go after bouncing off  the front end cap . ( the barrel is completely enclosed now inside the frame)  I then,  following a suggestion from the Talon web sight, drilled a hole in the bottom of the frame between the two barrel bushings  to allow the air to escape , lowering the pressure inside the frame and hopefully the report. Just drilling the hole was just part of the  job . I had to deburr the hole on the inside and disassemble the power wheel to clean up inside the tube. More work than I anticipated , and a learning experience. I reassembled the rifle adding a one inch piece of hair curler and a 1" stainless steel flat washer between the end of the barrel and the end cap , creating a front space and something to reflect the air backward. I shot it on CO2 first and with the power wheel on #4 the gun is now almost as quiet as my SS and has nothing on the gun that can be removed and put on any thing else. On HPA , even on low power it's not as quiet as my SS but it's low enough to shoot in my backyard without alarming my neighbors. On CO2 I lost about 50 fps  with the 12" barrel at 675 avg. but on HPA I don't think I'll notice any loss because on the lowest setting it was  averaging 905 fps with superdomes.  kirby

[Gene_SC]

Way to go David..:) I think I will bypass all the work and just get a TalonSS..:) But that sounded like a tedious project. Now you know your Talon from the inside out..:) FYI, you have got me very hot and bothered over getting a new TalonSS.. hehehe. If it was not for you letting me shoot yours at the meet, I may have just passed it up..:) I thought Dano would trade me his TalonSS for my Sumatra but now I think he is getting second thoughts..:) May just have to sell my Sumatra outright and buy the TalonSS. Next will be a tank and yoke assy. Oh, and that idea of yours about having two tanks in tandom sounds real good.. so I guess I will be looking for a couple scuba tanks with 2800psi capacity to fill my FX and the new TalonSS..:)
Thanks for sharing David and hope your accuracy does not change...

Gene

[kirby999]

Thanks Gene, Sometimes you just gotta jump right in there to find out if you can do something. I think Dano done found something he likes playing with , with that Talon SS he's got. hehe. They are fun to shoot. I think going for the SS is a good move . I thought of about getting a .22 cal barrel this time but I think the .177 at 900+ fps will take care of any thing I'm wanting to shoot. Guess I won't be needing that frame extension  I talked about , I like keeping it looking stock anyways. . kirby

[kirby999]

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k171/kirby001/Talons009.jpg  here's a picture showing the difference  between my Talon SS and Talon Mini- SS.  I think it needs a smaller scope maybe a 2x7x32 .kirby

[3n00n]

I agree that a slightly smaller scope would be 'just the rightlook' on that setup.

Howdoes itgroup now? Will it stillkill paintballs at 30m?

[daved]

Hey, David, looks good,  but man that thing's tiny!  I've had crappy luck with them, but you might consider a 6x Bug Buster for it, I think it would be a perfect fit.  Who knows, you might get lucky and get one that has good optics :-)!  Later.

Dave

[kirby999]

J , the accuracy is great thanks to the LW choked barrel . I've shot some cloverleafs at 20 yards from the sitting position with superdomes .I may go with the 4X power barska AG scope I have , there's something to be said for simplicity in a hunting gun and 4X is plenty for squirrels. I have a lot of experimenting to do with the gun. I have a micro-meter tank on it's way ; which should give me 200 shots on HPA, at I hope around 750fps or better with some JSB predators. . which will also let me keep shooting even when it turns cold. I'm going to be checking out the how the cold affects these guns on CO2 , next winter since the tank is so big , it may not affect them that much . kirby

[Big_Bill]

Hey Kirby,

You did a fine job ! She really look good, I wish you the best of luck with your babies .

[3n00n]

I'mvery interested in hearing about it. There may be atalon on the horizon in Centerville . . .

[kirby999]

I'll  give a full report with chrony numbers. kirby

[DanoInTx]

Hey, how did you go about drilling the front bushing.  I took mine all apart last night, and near as I can tell the from barrel bushing is a press fit.....so, uhm, how does a guy get his drill press in there?

[daved]

Hey, Dan, I just read something about this on TOG.  Cut a slot in a peice of plywood that just fits the barrel, and use it to tap the bushing off the barrel.  Same way you take a muzzle brake off a Gamo :-)!  Mine's on  it's way, can't wait!  Later.

Dave

[DanoInTx]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, don't........want............to.........mess............up..........the..............TalonSS...........still..............not...............sure.............if............I..........plan...........to.............keep.............it..............:)

hehe...I had the thing apart here at the puter desk while I was typing emails.  Really should save my handiwork for the garage, but that gun and a handful of allen wrenches are a dream.  There's maybe 20 pieces to the whole dumb thing, probably the same or less than a Cr2240.  Hard to mess up unless you lose a spring or something.  Thanks for the info on the front bushing, I'll probably vent mine at some point.

[kirby999]

My barrel bushings have a set screw . I just loosen the screw and it slid right off. The hardest part was getting lined back up on the barrel. kirby

[DanoInTx]

A set screw?????????

What the heck?  Man, I swear mine were pounded on with a 28oz. Estwing hammer....not in any hurry to pound them off either.

Dan