Thanks Barry. I have to tell you that the gate is locked, and if I put a $100 deposit down I can get the key to access the road to the National Forest. I don't know, something seems wrong about that. And, houses are being built right up to that gate, with the road being all but hidden off the main street. There are no real trees in these mountains next to my town, just steep canyons and scrub brush, but I am thinking about getting that key and exploring up there and try to find some open areas to hunt. The real forest area is about an hour away, but it is nice to hunt 12 minutes from my house.