Author Topic: Help, tuning my shadow 1k.  (Read 6134 times)

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Thanks everyone!
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2007, 05:24:24 AM »
I have been convinced that I need a spring compressor to operate on my s1k.  But instead of trying to fix up my current one, I bought a used one off of someone.  That s1k was listed as with a crown job and lube tune.  I still have my super tune kit with lubes/spring/guides and top hat which I might use on the new gun, eventually.  Thanks everyone for your imput!  And Thanks for looking out for me, I don't want to injure myself as then my parents wouldn't approve of me ever owning any kind of gun again >.<

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RE: Help, tuning my shadow 1k.
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2007, 06:32:52 AM »
Thank you Josh and a wise decision my friend.
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A couple of things...
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2007, 01:01:00 PM »
First - Bob, when you say you've seen two guns with destroyed thrust bearings, were these specifically the ones used in the tune kit in question? The reason I'm asking is that needle thrust bearings can indeed be designed for impact loads with intermittent rotation, and Timken specifically states that some of their needle thrust bearings are suitable for shock-loaded applications. Perhaps the most common example is the needle strut bearing used in many front-drive vehicles with McPherson strut suspensions. In this application, they obviously get shock loaded.

If the failed bearings you've seen were not the same ones that are used in the kit, it's possible that those bearings were simply spec'd wrong and that the proper bearings would not have failed. If, on the other hand they were the ones from that kit, then we thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Next...

Bob - when I described a method for servicing a springer without a compressor, I was merely answering a simple question with a straight answer: Can it be done? Yes it can. I am not going to deliberately withhold or falsify information in the hopes that someone will or will not do things a certain way. I gave him the information he seemed to want, and what he does with it is up to him.

Certainly, you are well within your rights to recommend against the procedure. I will not argue the point here except to say that while I have not done several hundred rifles as you have, I've used this procedure probably between 50-100 times and never had anything like a close call. If I had, I certainly would have relayed that information as well. Regardless, you think the procedure is risky and you said so - which is a legitimate purpose of this forum.

Now, as to your statement that "...people that make statements like that have no respect or concern for their fellow airgunners safety or health. Its nuts.", that is a different matter. It is an uncalled for personal attack against myself... and it's the second one from you in a couple of weeks. How you can draw that conclusion from a simple and honest answer to a direct question I cannot understand, especially in light of the fact that we've been acquainted for a few years now.

While your experience with these guns certainly gives credence to your opinion of a mechanical procedure, it does not make you any more fit to judge another man's concerns, motivations, mental condition, or the state of his soul. As I mentioned, this is the second time you said something like this within the past month or two... and frankly, I'm not inclined to wait around for a third.

You are one of the founders of GTA, and in deference to that I'm going to notify Gene that I am to be removed as a moderator of this forum.

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Re: Help, tuning my shadow 1k.
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2007, 03:05:34 PM »
Vince, this is not the first time you have brought up removing compression springs from springers without a spring compressor. One of the biggest concerns that Bob and me have is with safety. Even though you can remove hundreds of air gun springs without a spring compressor does not mean it should be posted as such. You know very well we have many new and young air gunners that join the GTA every day and if they thought you can do it they may try and do it them selves.. This is not good. It is fine that you can remove springs from springers without a compressor. But we ask you and anyone else on the GTA to think of the consequences of some young person or new air gunner that would read your post, and then try it for themselves. Hey what you do is your business but please do not bring this to the GTA. It is not safe. Bob was only doing what was right by posting back to you. I accept your resignation as moderator of the Gamo forum as you have requested.

I personally think that you have made many good contributions to the GTA and your reviews are of great value to many of us.

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RE: Help, tuning my shadow 1k.
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2007, 07:33:28 AM »


I removed both the front and rear site, but in place of the rear site is a small metal screw that the elevation knob used to rest on. It doesn't impair my shooting, but asthetically it looks bad. Is there an easy way to remove it other than shearing it off at the base? Thanks





You can get 2 nuts that fit on the screw and jam them against each other, and then turn the bottom one and take out the screw.



I gave mines a litle touch with a small liquid butane torch... just a touch, and it came out with a firm, slow turn.



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