About those Mil Dot scopes

[CharlieDaTuna]

I myself have never used one. What is your over all experience with them, what is a decent inexpensive one and a good place to buy???

You can get very cheap mil dots from Leapers.

Pyramid (among other places like scraggle) sell em.

http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/show.pl?group_id=26&cmd_accessories=1

The only one I have used personally is the Leapers 3-12X44 30mm SWAT Mini Size, but that's about $125 (still pretty cheap imo for the quality/features/looks).

Some candidates would be (all Leapers, all from PA cause I am being lazy):

4X32 Mini Mil-Dot Red/Green Illuminated Scope and Flip-open Lens Cover $49.99 (http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/accessory.pl?accessory_id=743)

3-9X50 Full Size Range Estimating Mil-Dot Scope $54.32 (http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/accessory.pl?accessory_id=829)

 6x32 Mini Size A.O. Bug Buster 2. Range Estimating Mil-Dot SideWheel Red/Green Illuminated Scope for $59.99 (http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/accessory.pl?accessory_id=884)

3-9x40 AO Mil-Dot Scope with R/G $69.99 (http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/accessory.pl?accessory_id=659)

So basically my take is, I haven't personally used these, but my experience with the Leapers scope I have used would make me strongly consider them for my next purchase.

And at $50, even if it's terrible (which I doubt) you haven't exactly broken the bank to try it out.

Good luck

As an inexpensive way to give it a shot, you may want to look into some of the Barska offerings. I've purchased the 3-12x40 AO mil-dot on sale for around $25.00.
Not going to tell you that this scope is the best out there but it is a good deal at twice the price in my opinion.

Russ S.

[longislandhunter]

I have 3 Leapers Mildot scopes and am very pleased with them.  I have their 4x16x50 and 2 of the 3x9x50 models, all illuminated reticles, which is really a nice feature for me especially when shooting very early or very late in the day. On all 3 of my scopes the optics are bright and clear and the scopes are of good quality.  The cheapest place I've found to buy them has been "Cheaper than dirt".  If I have to buy anymore scopes I will be buying more Leapers.  Anywya, just MHO.

Bob:

I've tried mil-dot for hunting and I didn't really like it that much.  I still have the scope (Bushnell Elite) laying around and may mount it on something someday, but that something will probably be a powder-burner on the order of a .22-250, .220 Swift, .204 Ruger, or .243.

For the hunting that I do with air rifles, I found the reticle to be far too busy for my taste and something of a distraction in picking out quail from the shadows of the shrubbery they lurk under.

Also, I sight my air rifles in for maximum PBR anyhow, so I don't have to mess with a bunch of hold-over / hold under in the field.

With my .20 R-1, I shoot Kodiaks in it, and nothing else. So I fired it through the chronograph to establish baseline for average muzzle velocity, then used Chairgun II on my laptop to help speed up the sighting in process for max point blank range.  This max PBR falls short of 50 yards, but the drop between max PBR and 50 yards isn't so great that I need a lot of help compensating for it.  I just aim a touch high with what I've got and pull the trigger.

I did the same thing with the .177 Shadow that I had as well as my wife's Shadow, and the result with Copperheads was a maximum PBR of 50 yards, which is as far as I care to try to kill anything with an air rifle.  In the field, with those rifles, sighted in the way they are, a mil-dot is really superfluous, as all I really need to do is plant the crosshairs on the center of the KZ and squeeze (well, touch is more like it, with the GTX trigger installed, LOL) the trigger.

I reckon it's all what you're used to, but I've done enough shooting with the duplex reticles used in Bushnell scopes to work out how much compensation for windage, distance, and taget inclination to add into my sight picture to score a hit, and I don't need the dots for that in hunting.

Taste is relative, but I found I prefer the duplex reticle that Bushnell uses for hunting use.  If I shot field target competitively, I'd obviously want the dots and the sidewheel A.O. focus and all of the other bells and whistles, and I'd be breaking the bank for the most competitive glass out there.

-JP
http://www.uplandhunter.net

[daved]

Bob

I have a Leapers 3-12x44 full size AO on my CFX, along with a GTX-II (soon to be GRT III) trigger.  These are the only mods I've done so far.  I also have the 80 mm side wheel on the scope.  I really like it.  Out of the box, it was practically dead on.  I mounted it with Accushot by Leapers one peice mount.  I mostly punch paper from a bench, so "busy" reticle isn't a problem.  The brightness and clarity of this scope is excellent, and the adjustments are smooth and precise.  I did have to get rid of the flip up lens covers, because of interference with the loading port.  I had a BSA 2-7x32 on it, the differnce is at least as great as one of your triggers compared to the stock Gamo.  Good luck.

Dave Dunn

what's your opinion of the full length scope with the rotary breech of the cfx?

What I mean is, how is it to load with the full length scope =D

Fine I think. No problems loading.
See pic