Thanks guys, I got alot of learning. Got my B=3's today from toolsnow.com, came fast, cheap good shipping. Best $ 20.00 pellet gun I ever got. Worked 4 hours tonight just checkin'em out. No full tune yet, just cleaned with citris juice and JB & a lube, molly'ed, and shot some 16gr and 8gr Preitors. DAMN, wait till I get my tune up kits! One is a great stock, the other will probly camo. One seal sucked , but with some razor knife workmanship I smoothed everything out some. Will dismantle tomorrow to begin trigger over haul. Send pics soon.