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Offline daved

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Silly idea?
« on: August 27, 2006, 12:54:03 PM »
In the process of doing other things to my CFX, I happened to pull off the recoil pad, only to discover that the stock is hollow.  Now here's the silly idea.  Since more weight tends to increase stability and decrease recoil of almost any kind of shooting iron, would adding some weight in the hollow stock be an advantage?  Say, use lead shotgun shot, like a dead blow hammer is filled with.  Since my CFX is on its way back from Charlie, I haven't had a chance to give this a whirl.  But if anyone has tried something similar, I'd like to hear the results.  And if not, I'll post my results when/if I get around to actually trying it.  I intend to make a custom thumbhole stock out of Ipe, a very dense, heavy tropical hardwood.  At about 68 lbs. per cubic foot, I should end up with a CFX that weighs about 20 lbs.  That should soak up a lot of recoil!  Later.

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Re: Silly idea?
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2006, 01:09:53 PM »
for that application, I'd use lead roof flashing because you can just fold it and stuff it in with little work
Just my silly idea
Another silly idea is to use your old mashed pellets from you target, and make a mold with plaster and cast a custom-fitted weight
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RE: Silly idea?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2006, 01:26:10 PM »
Will often fill them with expanding foam just becasue I don't like the hollow sound they make.

Shot would end to rattle a bit unless glued in place...might look for sheets as sugested in the other post than can be glued and unglued as the urge strikes you.
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RE: Silly idea?
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2006, 01:31:28 PM »
molding and casting old lead would make a custom-fit part that doesn't rattle too much ;) :) :)
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Both shot AND foam...
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2006, 01:48:03 PM »
wouldn't rattle, and it WOULD add weight...

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RE: Silly idea?
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2006, 03:40:13 PM »
I heard somewhere the same thing Ribbonstone is describing. Age being what it is I don't really remember weather the rifle in question was a CFX or an S1K. The person making the post wasn't interested in weight, he just wanted to get rid of the hollow stock's tendency to amplify noise. Expanding foam seemed to do the trick & it's available at Home Depot in a reasonably sized can.
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RE: Both shot AND foam...
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2006, 03:44:11 PM »
That should work...have to think of it as permanent as getting foam out once it's seat is next to impossible.  So I'd experiment with weights without foam...make sure you get a combination you can live with...and have at it.

(Be aware that the stuff expands like crazy, and once it sets up, is nearly impossible to remove.  So I'd  be dead sure the hollow you intend on filling is sealed off with no trigger openings, etc....mask off the butt of the gun...and deal with the excess foam before it truely sets up rock hard.)

Personally, want the weight more to the front than the butt...just like the "hang" of a muzzle heavy gun.
Robert

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RE: Silly idea?
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2006, 03:47:00 PM »
Did it first on a syn. stcked rem. 308...seems that hollow stock not only made a noise when it thumped into a twig, but it kind of "boomed" when fired (picked up the sound and fed it into your head through bone conductivity).  Worked in that application, so decided to try it on a Gamo air rifle.

Same results...removed most of the hollow "twock" when it striks a branch, and seemed to quiet the guna  bit.  Doesn't quiet the gun, but it lessens the noise conducted to the shooter, so it has the same effect.
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RE: Silly idea?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2006, 12:37:25 AM »
I filled the stock on my shadow with sand but first you have to plug the small hole that leads into the trigger with bog you have to put enough in though to make sure it wont come out then once shes dry fill with sand leave about 10mm and then cover with more bog to seal it in then replace ya rubber & away you go, It does make it heavy but shoots a lot better.
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RE: Silly idea?
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2006, 12:48:20 PM »
I never realized that the S1K stock was hollow. I wonder if there is something else that one could fill the stock with besides sand. So it would not be so heavy but absorb recoil much better... Will have to think of something and let you guys toss it around or maybe someone else has a good idea.

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RE: Silly idea?
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2006, 12:52:39 PM »
maybe put in something that would give a "dead-blow hammer" effect of neutralizing the kick??
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RE: Silly idea?
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2006, 01:31:29 PM »
Foam Pillow stuffing is what I use.

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RE: Silly idea?
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2006, 02:40:56 PM »
Did you notice a difference befoe and after Rich?

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Re: Silly idea?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2006, 02:35:50 AM »
Rifle had more of a soild sound, not hollow as before. Also the stuff has no weight to speak of.
I have filled all of the stocks on my Gamo's and the Winchesters also.

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Re: Silly idea?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2006, 02:38:37 AM »
So it is feathers or cotton you stuff the stocks with? And I assume when you shoot there is not cloud of feathers or cotton in the air....:)

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