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Offline TCups

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Spring Compressor
« on: May 29, 2008, 02:40:57 PM »
OK Folks, I am jumping off into the deep end without my swimmies.  I need a spring compressor, used.  Any of you folks have a deal on a good used one?  Thanks.

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Not difficult to build.
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 02:59:52 PM »
I happen to know of a certain carpenter that would probably evenwhip one up for you for a reasonable price.

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RE: Not difficult to build.
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2008, 03:04:54 PM »
Cool.  And BTW, J, where do I get the lube and tars you showed me?  I have two project guns I want to play with -- a vintage Spanish-made Crosman 3100/177 and a newly acquired BAM B26/177.  Wonder if I can still find parts for the C3100.

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ARH is my 'go to' for lubes, springs and RLO
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2008, 03:20:34 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2008, 03:52:28 PM »
Check the library out for some ideas on a compressor . They are easy to make . Believe me if I can make one I know you sure can . And it adds to the pleaser of the hobby . I made mine out of scrape wood I had around and some U- bolts that I bought at the hardware store. I also used a little jack I had laying around . Since the jack will not work on its side I stand the compressor on end instead of being flat . If it looks like Iam going to use it more I will either buy a new jack or mount the compressor to the garage wall . I might have $5 invested at this point and it works good, Marvin

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RE: Spring Compressor
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2008, 12:33:20 AM »
Hey TEC...check with Splash.  He said something about building them for a good price when I posted about buying a b-square from PyramidAir.  Mine cost $125 and I think they might still have a few left.

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RE: Spring Compressor
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2008, 12:37:52 AM »
Anyone with a mill has a great spring compressor. Got the idea from a post here. Don't remember what section but when Is aw it the light went on.

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RE: Spring Compressor
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2008, 07:10:06 PM »
Well, I took a crack at it.  Someone (Mike M?) suggested using a furniture clamp.  I had one in the garage and here is what I have come up with:  a desktop gun bench built on a 36 x 14 in birch plywood (an old piece of shelving).  A wood clamp compressor with a U-bolt clamp.  3 v-notched 1 x 1,5 in blocks to clamp the tube.  Still need to make a stop.  Think I will try for an interchangeable set, one solid and one with a hole drilled for the barrel, depending on whether or not the barrel has been removed.  The clamp has a little less than 2" of travel on the thread, but it is possible to slide the clamp mechanism back using counter pressure and carefully squeezing the slide release.  Need to figure out exactly what the pusher block should look like.  I put the bench on 2x4 rails on either end to raise it enough to also use my hobby vise.  It should set nicely on a desktop and have room to put tool under the gun bench, out of the way, when not being used.  We'll see how this works.

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N/T
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2008, 04:41:24 AM »
N/T

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Re: Spring Compressor
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2008, 05:21:04 AM »
Here is the finished (???) project.  Measured the holes drilled for an R9.  Can remove one of the back blocks to open up the hole for a barrel to pass through.  Recessed the 2x4 legs and added rubber feet so it can sit on a table and the hobby vice can be attached to any edge.  Anchored two barrel rests under the wooden rail for the compressor.  Saved the round cut out from the back block to make a wooden push block.  I think that with variations on wooden spacers and, if needed, drilling a few more holes, it should be able to accommodate most springers.   We will see.  I like the 4" raised work surface (am old and myopic anyway), and like having a space under to set tools out of the way.

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Re: Spring Compressor
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2008, 09:54:57 AM »
I like your design. I've been using a 36" bar clamp as a compressor. But then, I've only used it on an MP512M, an MP514K and a QB57. The 2 Russian models don't require a compressor, though it makes it easier, and the QB57 has only about 1-1.5 inches of spring preload. I wouldn't use it on my B30 or TF99, but it'll do until I can build a compressor.
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Re: Spring Compressor
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2008, 01:57:51 PM »
Here's the B26 in the compressor, just for sizing.  Had to eccentrically  enlarge the hole to accommodate the globe front sight. Have not attempted to remove the spring yet.

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Re: Spring Compressor
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2008, 02:27:50 PM »
You might want to use a smaller piece of wood for the "pusher". B26, R9 have these metal plugs in the sides of the receiver that help to take the stress off the trigger pins and the bolt; 2 round ones in the B26 and4 square ones in the R9. You have to push in the receiver block a little to get these out so you need a pusher smaller in diameter than the receiver tube.  I put the self stick felt pads for furniture legs on the end of the clamp screw instead of using a wood block. To pry out the plugs (pain in the butt!) I bought the hook and pick set from Harbor Freight:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=93958
Some guys use a small allen wrench, but my plugs were in so tight it bent! Make sure you are doing this in a clean area as the plugs tend to fly into oblivion when they finally do get free! I spent half an hour looking for one on my dark gray carpet! And be careful not to lose the safety spring, that puppy can vanish into thin air! After you get those plugs out, everything is easy. Good luck putting them back in! The R9 plugs came out and went back in very easily. If you don't have lubes, Rich from Mich has a great lube kit or Macarri:
http://home.comcast.net/~peterdragin/index.html/My_Homepage_Files/Page11.html
http://www.airguns.citymax.com/catalog/item/251484/4169286.htm
Take your time and be careful! The cocking slot and the slot for the trigger unit are VERY SHARP!! Scars to prove it! When you put the piston back in, the seal might hang up on one of the holes...just push it in from the outside with a allen wrench, anything that's not sharp and that will fit in the hole. I use hand files to deburr all the slots and holes before I clean out the tube. Brakleen (green can, non chlorinated) cleans everything fast and doesn't leave a residue. Good luck!
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Re: Spring Compressor
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2008, 04:02:18 PM »
Understand.  Lubes, spring, guide, & tune kit are on order from JM.  Have cut down & ground round an allen wrench tool for the insert plugs.  Thinking I may end up re-tapping the cast iron vice jaw for a longer piece of all thread to allow more travel.  The wood push block was just what came out of the backstop cut out, but will need something sized for the tube.  Heating the barrel w/ hairdryer should help loosen the inserts.  Will probably get a brake master cylinder hone and hone as well as de-burr.  I have a diamond file for knife sharpening that should work on the straights & chainsaw files for the curves.  Thanks for the advice.

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Re: Hone
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2008, 04:28:05 PM »
What ever you do don't let that brake hone catch on any thing or it all might become a basket of junk. I do not trust my self with them I use a wooden dowel grooved with sand paper in it . They do make what I believe they call ball brake hones that work good that can not catch on things . They have wires with abrasive balls on them if you can find the right size . They are non adjustable. Marvin