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Offline johncedarhill

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Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« on: May 31, 2008, 07:33:34 AM »
I am almost starting to chuckle but it will take months or years to laugh about this. I don't want to make a long story about it. Basically i decided to clean the barrel just with patches. anyway the patch got stuck and now i also have a bamboo skewer stuck plus the patch he he he he. The stuck patch is about 4 inches from the breech. I took off the scope and the muzzle break. Any reasonable ideas will be appreciated. I thought if I could get the patch back to breach I could pick at it an eventually get it out. I did not want to try to shoot it out. I don't think I am chuckling anymore. You guy can laugh as you think how dumb can he be. If I weren't so frustrated with the noise I would not have ever tried to clean it etc. I would like to think I can do better than to just chuck it into a dumpster.
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Re: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2008, 09:46:03 AM »
Been there done that.  I used a 1/8" wooden dowel (most hardware stores and sometimes walmart in the craft section).  Once I didn't have the dowel handy and carefully used a cleaning rod to slowly work the stuff out.

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Re: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2008, 09:57:05 AM »
Cleaning rods, wooden dowel, maybe even a thin metal rod (like a wooden dowel, but made of metal). I guess if worst came to worst and it's impossible for you to get the stuff out (I don't think you could actually get it permanently stuck) you could always buy a new barrel.

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Re: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2008, 11:02:38 AM »
the wooden dowel is probably your best option as it will not damage the grooves of the barrel

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RE: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2008, 11:19:32 AM »
Hey, John, if you have a source of compressed air and a duster nozzle with a rubber tip, you could probably blow everything out.  Although I'm thinking shooting it out probably isn't a bad idea, I suspect there'd be enough resistance that it wouldn't behave like a dry fire.  If neither of those work, it might just be time to tear it down and do that lube tune you know you've been wanting to do anyway :-).  Good luck!

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RE: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2008, 12:32:04 PM »
Not sure trying to fire it out is a good idea. If it is wedged pretty tight and that close to the breech it could be pretty hard on the spring. It may have the same effect as detonation. The dowel approach or compressed air is probably a better approach or a brass rod although I don't like to use any metal rod used in pellet gun barrels.
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Re: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2008, 02:48:53 PM »
Good luck getting it out. I would do the dowel method myself.BUT, if you pick the dumpster option, did I ever tell you that they call me 'Vinny the dumpster'?lol.
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Well, Gamo used to advertise...
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2008, 10:43:23 PM »
...that their rifles could be dry-fired without damage. Since then they've changed their recommendations, but I still suspect that a single dry-fire wouldn't hurt it. BTW - if you DO try to shoot it out, make sure you still point it in a safe direction. I once shot a wad of paper-towel through a B4-2, and it was going fast enough to embed itself into a cardboard box a couple of inches from the muzzle!

You could also disassemble the rifle and push it out from the other direction. It sounds like the skewer wedged everything in there, a good poke from the other direction might dislodge it.

Then again, you might be able to accomplish the same thing with some flexible copper wire (somewhere in the 10-14ga range) or some thick plumbing solder and work it through the loading port. IF YOU TRY THIS - don't cock the rifle! Just pull the cocking lever back a bit, rotate the port open, and then let the lever come back to its rest position.

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RE: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2008, 12:03:36 AM »
It is cocked and it will sit till tuesday. The fact that it was cocked sort of caused me to panic and go for the skewer so that it would not set that way. I was afraid to dry fire it. I don't want to get wiped out by an air gun. I got some dowel since I did not have a small enough one at the house and brass rods on the way home. I would never have tried this but the gun was tuned (I am told last decembe) and has exhibited sonic cracking since I got it. If it did not make my ears ring yesterday I would not have tried to clean it out.
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RE: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
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RE: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2008, 01:50:25 AM »
I thought about your deleted idea and ruled it out. Thanks for the idea though.
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RE: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2008, 05:00:25 AM »
One more suggestion, start soaking the blockage with some fine oil, like Rem oil. Lubrication will help the blockage slip out .Then buy a length of brass/bronze welding rod at any welding supply .Then working from the non plugged end try driving out the blockage the same way it came in, by tapping the rod with a 2x4 lightly. The bronze brass/ rod should be softer than the barrel metal. Also i would carefully round and polish the rod tip as a precaution against any barrel damage.This is a great reminder to follow Bob and Genes instruction on cleaning only with trimmer line ,it really works great and this can't happen. Also with the trimmer line I melt the end with a lighter flame to form a nub that keeps the cleaning patch on.   7MMMARK
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RE: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2008, 05:27:57 AM »
The trimmer line is how I got into this mess. I got some 12 inch brass rods and thinner dowels to go after it. I will try lubing. With as much goo that is in the barrel it wont make any difference. I am most concerned about it discharging--can I tape the cocking lever open?? I am wondering if I got a gun with a bad (new) seal since there is a lot more oil than I ever would have suspected.
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RE: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2008, 07:32:23 AM »
John, I'm not sure if you can, but try to decock it. Then you can work on the barrel, with no worries, about a discharge.
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RE: Stuck patch and skewer in a cfx
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2008, 07:43:10 AM »
Tried the Gamo site but could not find directions on how to decock it. In fact the directions I found did not cover the rotary breech but some sort of rising breech which described how to remove a pellet not another item.
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