Hey Big Bill,, Yes you are SOOO right in what you say!! At my age I know better,, its just that I get so caught up reading Ed (Shadow),,Long Island Hunter,, (Jeff) & my Good Buddy Harry,s posts,, (Many others here as well) That I have become somewhat of an adolesant "Competative Hunter". This is just plain WRONG & I know it. Mike Splash said it well,,How could you have thoght that snake was a Copper Head?? Of course I knew it was not (been hunting a LONG time!!) We ALL make mistakes,, Today I killed a snake that I should NOT HAVE!! To those that have or will see my other post here today,, I screwed up big time,, that snake should still be alive in my yard, he was no threat whatsoever. Ok,, I admit to my wrong,, now I got a Dam Coon Im gonna get!! Tim.