I messaged with Tony on the "other" forum, and looked around, and finally took his suggestion.
I was thinking of the new Leapers 8-32x56, but It'll be aBarska 10-40x50 [50's are 3 oz lighter than 56's] with SF ans illuminated mil-dot. Seems a good choice for an all around scope, with the big mag for that mythical 50 -75 yd magic.
there're both 30mm jobs, so it seems they have to have big glass, and all the side focus stuff I've seen [except fot some less powerful Nikons and such] tend to be 30mm.
If, by some mystic accident, I outstrip this one, I'll get a better one, but right now, I think the $250 is a good price point for a beginner.
Now for the right mounts.