Well Randall,,, Guess I have found my long lost twin brother,,,Keep it"On The Low",,,Man dont tell anyone!! I thought I told Ya,,, 8 lb. test with a 1/8 oz worm slip sinker w/ small treble (Laser Sharp Hook) will shurly "Get Er Done"!! You do know how to effectivly set your drag dont Ya?? TOO FUNNY Randal!! Tim.