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Match #2
« on: February 11, 2009, 11:30:29 PM »


OK, ladies and gentlemen, Match #2 will be beginning officially tomorrow, ( Friday) midnight and ends Sunday midnight. In hindsight it seems dumb to postpone tallying scores for a day after the match is over, so get those scores in by Sunday Midnight. My mentality this last match was great anticipation watching the final minutes of the match wind down on Sunday night and that led to some confusion on my part. This is a learning process for me as well, so here are the rules for MATCH #2



TARGETAgain we will use the Gamo target or a downloaded version of it. These things are pretty cheap and they are at Walmart, sports Authority and Dicks Sporting Goods and I suspect you would find them at Bass Pro Shop as well. Pyramid Air has them, so order a bunch when you make your pellet order. Since domed pellets seem more accurate than wadcutters a scoring guage would be a dandy little investment and will result in getting you a couple of extra points since the hole in the target left by those JSB's and CPL's are a little smaller than the size of the pellet. You can get a scoring guage at ChampChoice for about $10.



Course of Fire Just like last time the course of fire is five (5) shots per target on four (4)targets for a total of twenty(20) shots for score at a distance of 10 meters or 33 feet. A possible 200 points. The Gamo target does not have an X ring therefore our "X" is designated as any shot falling inside the 10 ring that does NOT touch the line. For you previously uninfected target shooters, the value of the X is still 10 but is used as a tie breaker. So if two shooters haveidentical scores, the shooter with the highest # of X's is the winner.



The standing position or offhand is the position used with no sling or other artificial support. Health reasons may dictate an adjustment in position so long as there is no artificial support of rifle/pistol/carbine or elbows.



Did I leave anything out?



**This match is shot at a relatively close distance, so eye protection is really a good idea. All it takes is one accident and you have a permanent injury. Have fun and alwaysshoot safe.

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Offline TCups

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RE: Match #2
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2009, 11:54:27 PM »
Hey Charlotte:
That is 20 consecutive shots in sequence, at 4 targets, right?  Not your 20 best shots.  I suspect that is understood, but just to be clear.  Practice all you want, but when you officially start your "match", it is the next 20 consecutive shots that count.  I don't know whether .22 wad cutters are an advantage over .177 wad cutters -- on the one hand, if you are a very good shot, it is easier to get more shots inside the 10 ring without cutting the line.  On the other hand, if you are a not-so-good shot, cutting more rings may be an advantage.  Dittos on the shot gage, I suspect.  Good luck all!   Have fun and be safe.

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RE: Match #2
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 12:59:19 AM »
Last weekend I shot about 20 targets and was consistently shooting 43 and 44  target after target.  So I was consistently inconsistent. To be fair and more like a real match I agree with you on 20 consecutive shots, but my shooting last wekend indicates it would have done me no good to have done anything to try and improve my score.  So, YES 20 consecutive shots.
As for the difference in calibers my original thinking was that .177 through .22 is OK.  In any normal sanctioned match you are restricted to .177.  How do you folks feel about the caliber issue.  We can restrict it or leave it as it is.  I don't have a .22 so it makes no difference to me.  I've shot my 17 HMR against Garands, M1A's and everything else and I felt no disadvantage at 100 yds.  Let's get some feedback.  I'd say nothing larger than .22 but you guys may prefer to limit it to .177.  What say you?
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RE: Match #2
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2009, 01:09:49 AM »
I only have a .22! So I'm biased towards keeping it friendly and letting both .177 and .22 ( the two most common) shoot!
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RE: Match #2
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2009, 01:25:41 AM »
What about a DAQ LA outlaw (.457 caliber).....I am sure it would break 2 or 3 or 4 rings at a time....and the backstop.....and the fence behind that....and the neighbor's car behind that.... ;-)

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Re: Match #2
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2009, 01:26:03 AM »
Why not set the match into a few sub-classes?? Like .177/.20 caliber class, and a .22/.25 caliber class. Also maybe a springer class,  a PCP/co2 class, and a pumper class. I've a feeling this match competitions are going to draw alot of interest as time go on,...so filling in a certain class of rifles and calibers shouldn't take too long. As for the actual targets,....I'm still not for certain. I'd prefer to use the Gamo5 targets and shoot four rounds per target. Plus,.. Bro' Andy advised blowing up the down-load to 125% when printing it out to match the size of the original gamo targets. 3/16" to a 1/4" difference on the nine ring is a big difference when compared next to each other. So if there is anybody out there that didn't catch this on the first 'go-round' by measuring the targets,...Like I didn't do,....then here's the way to even the field of competition!!!! There's my  imput on fareness and sportsmanship for everyones benefit.  tjk
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Re: Match #2
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2009, 01:59:21 AM »
We have been discussing a pumper only match on the pump rifle target forum. It sounds like it will be run concurrently with the general match.

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Re: Match #2
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2009, 02:04:27 AM »
I plan on shooting both the pump match and general match in the same session using different airguns.

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RE: Match #2
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2009, 02:25:01 AM »
May I suggest we not get too wrapped up in all of these details and variations for a simple weekender off-hand shooting match, at least for this one.   Cal 177, 20 and 22 are fine with me.  25 cal may be pushing it, but if that's all you have and you want to shoot, OK, why not?  Nothing larger though.  My main point is not to shoot 10 targets of 5-shot groups and then cherry pick your best 4 targets.  Practice all you want, but when you decide to go for your score, 20 consecutive shots.  And if those are not so good, you don't have to enter those 20.  Try again, but for match scores, the 20 shots that count need to be consecutive, once you start keeping score.

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Re: Match #2
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2009, 02:30:37 AM »
Which ever way it goes, I plan on shooting in the pumper gate match as well. So who want's to set the guide-lines for this one. Ten yards still sound ok?? Perhaps a different target so some folks might not get the matches confused. If there's no objection, I'll come up with the regs for the pumper match. Any thoughts or suggestions?!? If so, let's start a new thread in the pumper gate, and leave this thread to it's original subject and gate. EM me if you want. tjk
397 Benji-98\' model    
Marksman  0035, My Fav!,CDT T\'d
Crosman Sierra-Pro,.177
Benji 392 08\'
CDT TT\'d RWS 34 .22,CP 4-16X40 AO
MM T\'d Marksman 0035
Crosman G1 Extreme
Daisy PowerLine 1000
TF-97 .22
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Re: Match #2
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2009, 02:39:47 AM »
Well Dr Tommy,...I agree with you then. Let's keep it simple. No "cherry pickers" allowed!!! tjk
397 Benji-98\' model    
Marksman  0035, My Fav!,CDT T\'d
Crosman Sierra-Pro,.177
Benji 392 08\'
CDT TT\'d RWS 34 .22,CP 4-16X40 AO
MM T\'d Marksman 0035
Crosman G1 Extreme
Daisy PowerLine 1000
TF-97 .22
B-28A MM T\'d
B-28 OEM Tuned by me
Beeman .22 RX-2 w/Theoben GR
Beeman .177 R1 Santa Rosa

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Re: Match #2
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2009, 09:05:12 AM »
Anybody have a decent working link to ChampChoice?
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RE: Match #2
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2009, 09:57:00 AM »
I need better paper. My targets I printed out tear with every shot making it hard to score.

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Re: Match #2
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2009, 11:10:36 AM »
Ron
Put a piece of cardboard behind the target.  The cardboard acts like a cutting board, so the wadcutter can "punch" a cleaner hole.
When the hole gets ragged, the cardboard is probably shotup and needs to be replaced.  I collect cardboard boxed just for this reason, and its amazing how much cardboard you use in the normal course of life.  My wife has told me to "stop collecting cardboard!"

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Re: Match #2
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2009, 11:11:45 AM »
re targets
Big-5 does not carry the Gamo target.  At least the one near me does not.
I'll try WalMart the next time I'm near one.