Oh man, oh man......

[DanoInTx]

After many months of whining and moaning about how unhappy I was with the fact that Crosman used the 2260 trigger group on the Disco, and stating to myself again and again how I would never buy one, I finally broke down last week and for my birthday I bought myself a Discovery.....doh!!!!  I wanted a lightweight plinker for shooting offhand and sitting in my backyard.  I was looking at buying another 2260, then I figured if I was going to do that I would get a 2260SE to get the steel breach and the Bug Buster scope, then I figured at that price I may as well spend a few more bucks and get a gun I could charge with my SCUBA tank OR CO2 tank instead of buying powerlets or buying a bulk fill cap and valve, so I finally decided on a .177 Discovery.  I also ordered a TKO trigger kit and brake to round the package out.  The TKO kit came a couple days ago, like 2 days after I wrote MikeT (this man must mail these things before you even ask for them, it was FAST!).  The Disco will be here according to UPS on Monday, and I've already arranged a half day at work because I have an appointment that day AND because I need to recieve my new Disco.  I already had a .22 RJMachine bolt and have aquired a spare 2260 barrel for when I need a caliber change, so I think I'm all set!  Now I just have to wait, I hate waiting:(

[Truman]

I'd like to see that set up! I shot my Disco .22 today (finally the rain and wind let off!!!) What a totally different style of shooting from a springer! My first shots were all over the show! I've ordered a new stock buttpad to increase the length by  an 1"! I couldn't shoulder the gun very well and it all seamed too loose! Hopefully the buttpad will create a better hold! The trigger was softer than my Gamo but not too responsive. It seemed abit flexable but maybe that's with reference to the hard pull of the gamo again! I'm not going to be too hard on the Disco because it was only its first day out! I'll shoot it some more and then maybe do the trigger mod so I can feel the second stage! Saying that, it's a single stage trigger I think! Is that TKO trigger kit a two stage trigger drop in? Other thing I noticed about the Disco was the loudness! What a blast! Maybe a bit of moderation is called for! With the gamo pro mags, I destroyed my gamo target holder with 3 shots! Blew the top plate clean off!
On the whole, I think I need to start learning to shoot again! I went through the library and started reading about how to shoot last night and tried it out on the line today! Took the shots in under 3 seconds each offhand, my group closed from about 2" to all in the 9 ring! Shame I threw the comp with the loose shoulder hold! Never mind, I hope you enjoy your Disco and post about the mods for me!
Andy

[gamo2hammerli]

Congrats Dano on your new purchase......you haven't received it yet....and you're already planning to do some mods on it.  Way to go....you're going to make it an even better, smoother shooter.

[kirby999]

Congrats Dan on your Disco and Happy birthday Too . Let us know how the TKO trigger kit works out . I've got a friend who wants to buy a PCP but can't quite handle an air Arms yet . Except for mine. LOL I've been loaning him one to shoot field target with and I think he's hooked . hehe kirby

[DanoInTx]

It showed up today during the only 15 minutes during the day that someone wasn't here to sign for it.  I had left a note on the door "UPS, please leave on porch" with my signature underneath and he left me a "missed ya" notice that said "you need to sign in person".  What a *^%*%)*(%*, well you get the point.  I called and they said that the driver wouldn't be back to the office till 9p.m. and the service desk closes at 8p.m..  So I put it on "will call" and will most likely go pick it up on my lunch break tomorrow.  Figures that I left work early today for a doctors appointment and had planned on spending the afternoon cutting open the new box, oh well, such is life!

[kirby999]

Been there before , I called UPS back and told them to hold the package and I would pick it up the next day and they told me it would have to be after 3 pm , that there wouldn't be anybody there to help me. Dang it!!! I understand the reasoning behind requiring a signature , but you should be able to accept responsibility and cancel out the requirement with a driver license copy or something . I feel your pain !! kirby

[spark22]

Fedex screwed up big time when they left mine on the front porch and then came back later that night and wanted me to sign for it.I was a real jerk and said what package there was no package on the porch when I got home,and refused to sign for anything.I was realy upset that they would just leave my rifle out in the open even though I live in a realy nice neigborhood we do have people that drive through looking for things to take,and would have been realy P.O'd if somthing was to happen to it.I don't mind having to sign for anything if that means it doesn't get rained on or stolen it just sucks that the delivery man always shows  up you as soon as you run to the store!

[DanoInTx]

Yup, I totally understand why there is a signature required and I would be a whiney fool if they delivered it and one of the neighborhood kids walked away with it, it just seems like UPS has a habit of delivering during the only 15 minutes during the day that someone isn't home.....I swear they watch for me to leave from the corner:)   No matter, I dropped by the distribution center this afternoon on my lunch break and picked it up safe and sound.  Shot a grand total of one pellet through it, then off it went into the shop for a trigger tune.  I installed the TKO trigger kit, which btw is a "must have" mod, added a barrel spacer and second barrel band, added the TKO brake, and milled the fill cap to fit.  No scope mounted, and haven't installed the front sight on the new brake yet....and have still only put one pellet through it....haha!!

Mini-review:

Man this thing is TINY.  I don't know what I expected, I have a 2260, but somehow I thought the Disco would be bigger somehow.  I swear they could get 3 stocks out of a normal sized stock blank.  The bluing is standard Crosman style, the stock could use a little polishing, mine is a bit flat.  As stock the bolt was a little stiff, but I'm sure that will improve with use.  The bolt handle was a bit of a surprise, I really like the slightly oversized handle, definate improvement over the 2240 or even the 2300 bolt handles, kudos to Crosman on that.  The issue iron sights are pretty decent tru-glo deals and are of better quality than anything else Crosman has made, with exception of the aftermarket sights offered on their Custom Shop guns.  For a sub $300 PCP after all of the aftermarket mods I've added I think it's a great little gun.  It isn't an Air Arms, or a FX, or whatever, but it was never meant to be, and at their pricepoint these are a great introduction to PCP's and it will make a fine addition to my airgun closet.  Now I just need to chrony and accuracy test and we'll be all set!!!

I can't say enough about the TKO trigger mod.  I have tried alot of triggers, and the 2260 trigger is one of my least favorite trigger groups, but Mike's trigger kit makes for a surprisingly different trigger.  It gives a nice two stage "feel", predictable release, and a good solid overtravel stop.  I have never tried the "drop-in" trigger on a 2260, so I have no comment, but this mod only took me about 10 minutes to perform with a drill, tap and tap handle, and then maybe another 20 minutes of cleaning/polishing and reassembly.  If the "drop in" mod was a skill level 2 out of 5 the TKO kit would be a skill level 3 perhaps, it's pretty easy, I did everything except the drilling and tapping while sitting here in my office chair watching TV....well worth the few $$ spent.

[Truman]

Hey Dan, what's the barrel spacer do for the gun? I'm hoping to go down the same road, with the TKO trigger group, muzzle and an extra band. I'm also putting an extra 28mm of butt on the end too!

[DanoInTx]

I don't know that the barrel spacer does much of anything except fill the gap between barrel and airtube.  I had it laying around as well as the extra barrel band from previous 22XX projects, so I installed it:)  If you look at where the stock barrel band is it's at the same place as the 2260, so other than feeling more secure it probably doesn't effect accuracy much, but I could be wrong.  The single best improvement so far was the trigger kit from TKO.

[Truman]

Cheers Dan for that! I'm not all that impressed with the trigger myself, so if I can I will change it! Parts seem very difficult to get over here in Spain so I may have to do the mod myself! I've seen a few different mods so far, one with the 3 screws, one with 2 screws and one with the pivot in the center! Choosing which one is the problem! I'd prefer a drop in mod so I can keep the gun original if I need to return it! Maybe I will machine a new part based on the old dimensions and mod that, who knows!

[Timmyj1959@yahoo.com]

For what it,s worth. I tried moving the band forward,, I also tried 2 bands,,,, twice. Both times I got vertical stringing.(Up & down POI over a 25 shot string) Talking with a Friend that knows WAY more than I do,, we figure the air tube must "move" some due to varying preasures. I confirmed this by checking the spacing between the stock muzzle break & tube after 25 shots. It MOVED!! The gap changed!! Cant remember wich way,,, but I think it was accually touching the tube towards the end of 25 or 30 shots. Also,, I noticed when I removed band from the factory position (Off the gun),, the gap was HUGE,,, brl. pointing towards the sky!!  Putting it on the front of the gun efectively "Bannanaed" that poor lil brl!! (shot like a springer) :p  I noticed the steel breach did not fit down "snug" to the main tube,, unlike the fit on all my XX guns. I disassembled the gun & tried EVERYTHING,, 3 times!! :0  At my witts end,, I finally used a small vice & clamped the breach down to the tube (compressing the small o ring Im sure),, lo & behold,,, the tiny allen screw we all hate (LOL!!) was so loose I was able to tighten it a turn or two. Then,,,, BINGO,,, the gap between the brl. & tube was consistant all the way!! I installed the band back to factory position & tested again,,,,,, WOW!! This thing was grouping now!! Not like my 2260,,,,, but,, better than the "China Springer" groups I had been getting!! :D (Certainly decent enough for hunting) Then,,, I built my own muzzle break for it,,, BINGO,, one hole groups!! 8) (Cant explain why that helped further,,, "harmonicks" I guess??) I can honestly say,,, I now get one hole groups @ 25 yrds. now bench shooting w/ 14.5 Super Domes. :D  Im only getting around 835 fps,,( I think maybe the "smushed down" seal is constricting airflow some??) Im not saying Im right about what I just said,, I am saying I put ALOT of time into testing my Lil Disco,,,,, this is truly what I found,,,, it worked on mine. Sorry for the long whinded post,,, just wanted to share my personal experience with what I also consider to be the best bargain PCP gun out there!! Tim. PS,,,,, my trigger still SUX!! :p

[melloroadman]

I did the 2 screw mod on the trigger like a lot of people did and like several ended up with fps. problems like many others as well and read about what the Crosman team did with their lower link and did that mod and got a consistent rifle again . What works for one does not always work for another .Marvin
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8956&posts=19&highlight=lower%20link%20mod&highlightmode=1#M79112

[Truman]

Looks like I'll be changing the pivot position then! Cheers All. One other thing I have noticed is inbetween the airtube and the breach (it looks to be by the seal) there is always a bit of lube there even if I wipe it off! Could this be the seal is not fully sealing and air is blowing out at this point, Is this the little screw Timmy was on about earlier? Do I need to worry?

[melloroadman]

You can place some tissue paper over that area and shoot the rifle and see if it is blowing air out the seal or better yet a little soapy water spray  on the area and then shooting the rifle should show a leak . Do not get to force full with that little screw it will strip out real easy I think it is only a # 4 screw . If you have good fps . readings don't worry .Marvin