stock vs. tune

[sshewins]

Its me again, this time I'm curious how much of a velocity gain will I get with a tune vs. no tune.  I know the gamo #'s are slightly inflated, but will they actually go up with, say, a turbo tune?  Based on a whisper in .22.  I'm thinking of not only nutters, but also crows and maybe even a rocky (racoon).  Big problem at friends farm with rocky wanting horse feed more than the horses.

Once again, thanks in advance!

[bryan]

cant really say much but the difference between the tune and untune is that once you shot a tune gun you probably dont want to go back with the untune gun..thats just my opinion..

[Progun]

Hello Scott. There is a good chance that your velocity won't go "up" at all with a "turbo-tune". Unless of course your stock gun is performing below par as would be the case with a broken spring or bad seal issues. What you WILL get though is a gun that will likely be a much smoother performer with less vibration and "twang" and that might help you to shoot the gun more accurately.Especially true if your tuner replaces your stock Gamo trigger with a GRT111 trigger.If you really want more velocity and power than what the "Whisper" is designed to produce you would be better off to upgrade to a real magnum class of air rifle that has a more powerful power plant than your "Whisper" can produce.JMO.

[sshewins]

Well that makes sense.  I cant afford to get a PCP TalonSS just quite yet.  I'm thinkin a shot to the fuse box should just about take care of things.  I'm likin the whisper due to the neighbor factor, although, I do realize it won't be quiet - just quieter.

[daved]

A typical "1000 fps" springer in .177 will produce somewhere around 14 fpe in the real world, with some luck and the right tune, maybe a touch more.  That's more than enough to take a raccoon out to 20, maybe 30 yards if you do your job.  In .22, you MIGHT gain a couple of fpe, but at the cost of a much loopier trajectory.  Bear in mind, the Gamo power plant is the same, regardless of caliber.  BTW, from what I've seen/heard, the Whisper isn't that much quieter than a standard springer.  IMO, it's just sales hype.  Most of the noise from a springer is from the power plant, anyway.  If you're serious about a medium power hunting springer, you might want to consider something in .20 cal.  A little more knockdown power, a little flatter trajectory, might be just the ticket.  But if you're REALLY serious, save your pennies until you can afford that Talon SS in .22 ;-).  Or maybe a new Crosman Marauder, I think the price is going to be about the same.  Later.

Dave

[sshewins]

So a Big Cat isn't much louder than the Whisper?  I've got some (not all) really snooty neightbors and don't need the greif !! (or the nutters)

[agg]

Just one man's opinion here. Was shooting a whisper next to a Daisy 880. The whisper has had about 2000 pellets though it. The 880 was being pumped 10 times. The whisper is quite, just a thud sound, the 880 was much loud. I took one of my kid toys to stuff the rifle stock. The stuff is almost like a sticky type of Styrofoam that they can form it to shapes, It worked pretty good.

[North Pack]

I had a Phantom Turbo Tuned - it's "smoother operating", "maybe" a tad easier to cock, has much better accuracy - and about the same FPS with .177 of course. ... I also have a Whisper, and shooting either the Phantom or Whisper indoors, (35 feet) - I don't think the Whisper is much quieter, almost can't tell them apart

[Magnum]

Hey scott, You may get more fps with a tune but really what it is doing is making gun work smoothly and consistant ( same velocity every time) so that you hit where you aim. Some people even detune for accuracy reasons. A standard untuned airgun twists, creaks and clanks very bad for decent accuracy!! I think a tune  also helps scope life,  All my broken scopes have been on untuned airguns!:) The GRTIII trigger is a must do. You will need to experiment and find the best pellet for your gamo also will help. Hope that helps,Tony.