Hi Bill, I was really suprised, I have a rest that has a V in it and is adjustable for height, the V is covered in rubber and the rear can be adjusted also, I just rested the barrel in there and put the stock to my shoulder snug not tight, and held the pistol grip snug too not tight and squeezed the trigger, I got the pull set fairly light and it produced the best groups I've ever shot, well you couldn't even call it a group I mean 1 hole, I was amazed, I'm gonna try my shooting sticks tommorow to see how they do, hopefully they'll do as good