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Re: Talk about BS !
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 01:39:43 PM »
Look at it this way, - might save those folks in Ohio a few bucks. Now there's no need to replace radar or laser guns any longer, all they have to do now is just glance out the window. - You're right, this is TOTAL bs.

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RE: Talk about BS !
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 02:43:23 PM »


In the Old Days, when there was law and justice, an Officer had to tail you for 1/4 of a mile to prove your speed. But there was no evidence that you were realy going the speed he ticketed you for !



Then they only had to shoot you with a speed gun of some sort. There was still no evidence that you really were going that speed, or that his speed gun was celebrated !



And NOW, what the heck, if he has a Hot Nut for you, your toast !



The Government has to get that money off of you somehow !



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Re: Talk about BS !
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2010, 03:23:28 PM »
I guess we just need to slow down...:) I agree with it being BS but the libs are taking over. What can I say!!!!!
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Re: Talk about BS !
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2010, 04:20:53 PM »
come on, really there is such thing as an optical illusion.  LMAO  no but really I own a Mustang Gt with full exhaust, no cats.  I get profiled pretty bad even if i'm not speeding.  Lucky for me I dont live in OHIO, lol  Delaware state troopers are cool cops,  they don't really bug you unless your going 10+ over.  Maryland highway patrol love to pull people over.

 I think they ought to invent a radar gun/Camera so it takes your picture and prints the speed out on the page.
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RE: Talk about BS !
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2010, 06:33:13 PM »
its worst in california bro :0
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Re: Talk about BS !
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 07:35:32 AM »
NO cop or person should have the right too just" guess" at a court matter!!!! these is total BULL$hit!!!I can just see them useing it for all kind's of infringement's on your right's.you flying at top speed yeah,reckless op. at least  ,but for the rest of it is infringement!!just like if you don't laugh at the "supposed"joke's it's reason to search you & car.COME ON GUY's,give them a inch an they take a.............
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Re: Talk about BS !
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2010, 07:47:53 AM »
When I used to live in Kalifornia, the traffic was awfull and the drivers were impatient and wrecklace.. Many times I wish I could pull them over and give them a ticket for stuff they pulled. But I was not a cop and had to live with it.. Would be great if that law was past in kalifornia.. They need it...:)
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RE: Talk about BS !
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2010, 01:41:59 PM »


Let's say you are called as a witness to an accident involving excessive speed. We'll assume the car in question was traveling fifty mph in a 25 mph zone. Do you think you could honestly say that the car was going well above the posted speed limit? I think I could, as well as most other drivers with reasonable experience. Judging speed is part of driving. We all do it, every time we wait to make a right turn on red, cross over an oncoming lane on a divided highway, etc. If you're turning onto a 35 mph road and see a guy barreling past the rest of the traffic, can you make the rough estimate he's doing somewhere well north of 35? Police officers, especially seasoned patrollmen, have enough professional experience to make a reasonable deduction in cases where someone is grossly exceeding the speed limit. It's one reason they will switch on the lights if you happen to buzz by.



Regarding Maryland state troopers, they used to have a nice little racket back in the late Sixties/early Seventies of getting in front of a fellow and then gradually increasing speed until they were within ticketing range, then pulling the poor sod over and writing him up. Entrapment? Sure. Still got the ticket, though.




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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2010, 02:32:16 PM »
Never the less, it's still nothing more than "an opinion" - and what one sees, another may not. Around here, the police were instructed to give out more tickets due to the down-turn in the economy. The local & state government wanted to make up for the short-fall. This completely stupid idea would provide an "open season" on writing "tickets for bucks" - NOT to be encouraged. ... Police today have a number of very exact ways to determine someone's speed, - there's no need to use the "I think" but can't prove approach.

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Re: Talk about BS !
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2010, 04:30:08 AM »
That would be a TERRIBLE trust in technology.

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Re: Talk about BS !
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 04:32:55 AM »
This is the opposite of the speed camera and total reliance on technology to do the enforcement. That is also WRONG.

This is also a case where people are not equal. There is one man who says you did something, and you said you did not. Without over evidence you are "innocent" until you are proven guilty. This makes you guilty until you can prove you are innocent. a VERY wrong thing for this country to start.


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Re: Talk about BS !
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 05:56:53 AM »


I agree with you Martin,



However that is just the direction that OUR government is heading ! First it was the TAX COURTS, if you know it or not, You are GUILTY until You prove Yourself innocent !



And I have never seen any form of evidence shown in traffic court until the placement of video cameras into police cars, and they are not in every police car.



We, the sheep, must wake up and demand our full Constitutional Rights in every American Court !



Until the Sheep grow some cojones, this behavior will continue to grow in disfavor of Americans !



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RE: Talk about BS !
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2010, 11:19:11 AM »


I really don't get all yall's point here. You want to live in a society that protects its citizens but don't want the police to have much enforcement. On the one hand, "society is too soft on criminals", while, on the other, "the police have too much power". Can't have it both ways. How come it's not ok for a cop to guesstimate that someone is driving over the speed limit, but it's (by implication) ok for that person to break traffic laws? I, personally, don't like it if I'm driving on the interstate, maybe a little over the limit, and some guy in a corvette zooms me at ninety plus, just because he can. If a passing car makes me look like I'm parked, I say, yeah, he OUGHTA get a ticket. Maybe not for doing 97.346 in a 55 mph zone, but at least for SOMETHING. And a cop doesn't need absolute scientific, hard copy proof to make his case. He sees you climbing out the window of someone else's house, he doesn't have to document everything with videotape in order to make an arrest. Just reasonable cause, based upon his training and experience.



Back to the article in question, where did it describe the circumstances of the man's ticketing? It just said the courts upheld the cop's estimate. I guarantee, you pass the high school here at thirty-five when the school zone lights are flashing, the cops won't be particular about exactly how fast you did it when they write you up. Neither will the judge.


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Re: Talk about BS !
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2010, 11:37:34 AM »
Nobody has a problem with decent/honest law enforcement that I'm aware of. In fact everyone is all for it, - but "guesstimating" someone's speed leads to unequal enforcement, - by its very nature. The police have tools to accurately determine speeders, - nail 'em, no problem - seriously. Personally, I don't want some guy saying "it looks like" you were speeding, - sign here or I'm arresting you. Go to court and what's your defense? - Seriously, RF  - what is it??? If the police can't be wrong, (as in possibly China/Boliva etc.) - what's your defense??? - You don't have one, - and that's not what this country is all about. - It's "innocent until "proven" guilty - the complete opposite.