I love my centerfires too Bill, but on my 1.5 acre "farm" that would get me a visit from the police very quickly. It's still hard for me to believe that a groundhog can be killed with a pellet gun, but the higher speed guns with the hard CPHP ammo sure did the trick. Never thought of taking a picture of the flea bit fur bags, but next time I get one, I will get a pic just for you :)