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« on: October 25, 2007, 05:27:25 AM »
yesterday was a bad day i was out side shooting my gun and the cops showed up  because one of the people living round me called them. but anywas the cops were telling me that it was stubid to shoot in my back yard but the took my new b-30 which also had a new scope on it and they gave me a 750.00 dollar ticket so now i have to go to court to get my gun back i will just eat there tickets but this is the second time they have done this to me in two different houses...... cops need to get of there power trip

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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2007, 05:52:12 AM »
I agree some need to be kept on a leash but they are just doing there job. I think a warning would have been more than enough. If you are lucky enough to get your B-30 back just be prepared to buy a new one because it more than likely will be trashed. You got to check the local laws.
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2007, 05:56:55 AM »
I was worried about the same thing also..I called the police information line and spoke with several people,I was told as long as I had a sufficent backstop and none of my rounds struck anyones house I was within the law..Far as sound goes ...I only shoot for long periods during midday..Never before 10am or after 6Pm..

$750.00 !!!  Ouch

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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2007, 06:07:35 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2007, 10:03:39 AM »
We have the same prob in NZ so we must have a safe back stop and the main thing is that we need to inform our neighbours that we are shooting an air rifle as it's against  the law to cause alarm as some people will fear it the second they see the gun.
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Where do you live?
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2007, 11:46:03 AM »
And what, exactly, are the laws?

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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2007, 02:46:46 PM »
If airgun shooting in your location is not illegal, then I would contest the hell out of this ticket, and demand an apology from the authorities in the bargain.
Check it out, and avoid that ridiculous fine.
$750?!
That is outrageous!

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2007, 03:04:39 PM »
i live in cheyenne wyoming i have never heard of a law we have 5 year olds shooting pellet guns here and every cop ive talked to says they dont think there is any laws but then this cop comes on his ego trip and goes of about how its not safe even though i had wood like six inches thick and i was using a half a transmission and then there was no houses facing that way and i told the cop that other cops have said its ok and he said he didnt believe that so i guess im going to court

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2007, 03:07:34 PM »
That SUCKS.  For crying out loud, there's people out there killing other people with real weapons and they have to screw with people shooting airguns.......................

No wonder we got problems.

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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2007, 07:27:37 AM »
It sounds like they charged you for something that had nothing to do with your situation.  What does the ticket say?  What did they charge you with?  If the fine is $750 it sounds like it might be a misdemeanor class B they charged you with, and not just a city/town code violation.  Go on-line and do a search on the violation code that is on the ticket.  Also go to your state's web site and look up the penal laws on guns and airguns and their use.

They did this to me once many years ago when I was 17-18 living with my parents.  One of the neighbors called the cops.  I was charged with "unlawful discharge of a firearm"!!  This was back in '84 and I had no Internet or anything to look it up but I went to court and pleaded not guilty.  They rescheduled the court date so the cop would be there to testify.  The cop did not show up (probably embarrased) the 2nd time I went to court.  The judge said he would probably dismiss the case because the cop failed to appear, but he wanted to read the cop's report first and then make a decision.  He read it and started shaking his head.  He asked me: "you used an airgun, and in your back yard?"  I said yes your honor.  The judge continued shaking his head and "I can't believe this.." and had a grin on his face.  He said first of all an airgun does not discharge by black powder or explosion and therefore is not classified as a firearm in the state of NY (as is in most states).  He then said airguns are perfectly legal to shoot anywhere (in NY) especially on your property as long as you don't point it at anyone or try to harm someone with it.  He dismissed the case right away and apologized to my mom who had come with me.  I suspect the cop probably knew he couldn't win and that he purposely charged me with the wrong 'crime' just to scare me or teach me a lesson or something.  Nevertheless his actions were not justified.  There are other ways to scare a teenager and teach him to be safe, like threatening to come back and confiscate the airgun or ask him to shoot in the back yard only, and not the front, etc.  You don't charge him/her with discharging a firearm..  Not all cops know the laws well, and some are simply ball busters and don't know how to deal well in certain situations.  I say this because I later went on to become a cop, and to be honest, some people should have never gone into that profession.  They often bring their problems from home to the job, and got forbid they don't get 'any' in a while.. Some even come to work impaired after having had a few drinks.  About 1/3 of the guys I worked with were functioning alcoholics. They had no problem consuming a 12-pack when they got home from work, or spend hours at a bar every night.  I often found them at bars during the day too.  I 'm not putting down police officers, but there are always a few that are eccentric, weird, excessively ball busting, always on a power trip, or simply noone likes them.  We had about a dozen of those kind of people out of ~130 total.  It's the same everywhere.
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2007, 12:02:33 PM »
This is not the last word, it's from a website with many similar city codes.

To know exactly what the rules are, you'll probably have to correspond
with the city.

For official information or verification of approved ordinances, contact:
Cheyenne City Clerk's Office, 2101 O'Neil Ave., Room 101, Cheyenne, WY 82001;
telephone (307) 637-6334, or e-mail  cityclerk@cheyennecity.org.

http://municipalcodes.lexisnexis.com/codes/cheyenne/

9.24.030 Discharging firearms or air guns prohibited.
No person shall discharge or explode within the city any rifle, revolver or pistol, any air gun or other gun discharging BB or other size shot or firearms of any description or any other combustible or explosive material. (2001 In-house code § 30-53)

Slingshots are also banned, according to this source.

Sorry.

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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2007, 12:41:57 PM »
yes that may be the case but they could have gaving me a warning or somthing and the never even seen me shoot it they went by what another person had said so i will go to court and see what happens plus another cop told me that it was ok so i went by his word

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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2007, 01:30:43 PM »


If that is the city ordinance, then you might want to try to pay before going to court.:0 As far as a warning didn't you say this was your second ticket, so you knew better.:o Sometimes you have to pay up and find another place to shoot.:o Yes it is stupid, but you knew better, after the first ticket. Just my opinion.:p



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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2007, 02:29:03 PM »
the first ticket was in a different state and like i said i asked a cop if it was ok and he said it was ok so he should not tell me that if im going to get a ticket

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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2007, 03:43:23 PM »
This post got me thinking and went to check out the municipal codes of the city I live in.  And here's what it states:

Sec. 3-3106. Use of weapons.
No person shall fire, discharge, shoot, or operate, or assist or participate in the firing, discharging, shooting, or operating of any gun, revolver, pistol, shotgun, firearm, spring gun, air gun, BB gun, sling, slingshot, bow and arrow, or device designed or intended to discharge or capable of discharging any dangerous missile or any cartridge, shell, ammunition, or device containing any explosive substance.


Does it mean no shooting even at my backyard?  Oh, crap...