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Offline flaboy

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CFX or ???
« on: March 04, 2008, 01:03:08 PM »
I have a cfx with cdt trigger. it made all the diffrence in the world! however it did not cure the loading port that I hate :-(
I am considering a turbotune, I like the underlever cocking but hate the loading.
should I consider a diff gun? before tuning or just live with it as I am just an occasional shooter. mostly at paper.
I am interested in different opinions as whether to stay with the .177 or go to .22
the gun is already more accurate than I am  :-(
if I turbo tune then I will need new optics (I think)

OK, I don't really need either but??
what yall think??

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Re: CFX or ???
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 01:24:10 PM »
Lionel

I own three of the CFX's and have not experienced what you have. A tune will not help that problem. I personally would hate to see you sell off you Gamo CFX but if you are not happy with it then get a barrel cocker. They are much easier to load. Generally most of us here on the GTA who own the CFX's would never suggest one as a first air gun, only because of the problem you are having. There are plenty of other nice barrel cocker air rifles that are available. I have probably 25 of them..:) But if you can afford it, keep the CFX and buy a different air rifle and eventually you will probably get used to loading that CFX..:)

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RE: CFX or ???
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 01:27:28 PM »


I think that you should do everything and become one with"the airgunners fever". This fever causes many things, but the most noticable is the accumulation of different airguns.



But seriously I think you should do everything. Get the turbo tune, get a new rifle too. Why not go for a .22? If you dont have one then you need one IMHO. If you ever need to take out any large pestspests then you'll be ready.:) Plus I think you should experience a .22 and its power and capability.



And as optics go...if you are not satisfied with what you got, then get some new stuff. If you get a new rifle then you'll probably want some new optics for it anyway so you dont have to mess with using 1 scope and mounting it on whatever you want shoot today. Its really a nice feeling to just pick up a gun with the scope already mounted and sighted in. Just pick em up and shoot!!!

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RE: CFX or ???
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2008, 01:34:35 PM »
I apreciate the opinions, let me emphasize, I am only am occasional shooter. I cannot take my cfx on truck with me so whatever I will only see it a coupla times a month. I am sure I can get used to the loading as I do like the underlever. the present (stock) scope has done all I asked but I am a trinket collector and I am considering doing something with it.
cdt trigger has made me wanna shoot it.
so turbotune and what (cheep) scope?
what yall think?

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Re: CFX or ???
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2008, 01:41:29 PM »
If you already have the GRT-III trigger then all you need is the super tune. The overall difference will be wonderful.. All three of mine are Turbo Tuned with the GRT-III trigger. By all means keep it and shoot it occasionally and you will eventually get the hang of loading it.

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Re: CFX or ???
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2008, 01:48:53 PM »
Loading my CFX.22 is second nature now, you get to know right where it need's to be to load a pellet and thier just great shooter's. :) Ed
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Re: CFX or ???
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2008, 01:50:21 PM »
Thanks Gene, I was talked outta turbo tune by CDT as he accurately diagnosed me as a tinkerer NOT a true airgunner. he advised try for a while then deside. I respect him a lot for that!
what scope do yall recommend thats on the inexpensive side?

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cheap scopes
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2008, 01:52:26 PM »
Meaning good scopes with a small pricetag. The BSA 3-12x44 AO can be had for 55 bucks. Thats what I have on my CFX.
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RE: CFX or ???
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2008, 06:18:13 PM »


DISCLAIMER: this is garage-driveway airgun sugery. this is  my own cure for the cfx's loading problem. works on my cfx's but don't blame me for any defects if you goof up.

try this if only, you are familiar with dissmantling and reassembling the rifle . if not, do not attempt. if you have had experience. do check and make sure to debur all snags in and at the end of the compression tube. take off the scope stop pin to assure there is clearance to slide the breech block out safely, that pin can kill the breech block. the breech is made of (i think) brass and coated with a satin silver finish. it will scratch very easy.

note: the o-ring might get chewed up in this operation if compression tube is improperly prepared. make sure to have a back up(very cheap from local hardware store). do not touch front O-ring. scratches and blemishes on the breech's rims  can cause the rotating action to become harder then usual. use drill bit or round file of exact diameter of the trough width.







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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2008, 12:24:13 PM »
there's really no reason to go with .22, especially since good ammo is so much more expensive in that caliber.

Some think that The CFX isn't the best gun for plinking, but it is a darned good rifle when you want to hit something with your first shot! But you might want to get a breakbarrel in addition to the CFX - right now, you can get the old Gamo 440 (new) at Natchez for $100. That's one of the best deals around right now.

That way you can shoot them side by side and see which style you really like - the 440 is a cousin to the CFX and they share many parts. Your CDT trigger will also fit it, of course.


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Re: CFX or ???
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2008, 02:10:29 PM »
I know there are quite a few that are agravated with the loading port on the CFX but I personally like it.   Primarily I like the safety aspect of the rotating breech block.  However, I also have not found loading to be as problematic as some have reported.  

If I angle the barrel down, I can just drop the pellet head first towards the open breech and gravity and the loading trough guide the pellet right into the breech.  A push with my fingernail ensures it is seated and the skirt will clear the rotating breech block.  This works so consistently that I can load in poor light or without taking my eyes off the target.  I mainly use Crosman Premier HP's but wadcutters load nearly as well.

I was probably lucky and got a rifle with well machined parts.  She's definitely a keeper.  I would not trade her for a break barrel.

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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2008, 02:21:21 PM »
Having a machine shop at my disposal would make such an operation even easier I'd imagine.  I think they've changed the block a tad making it easier to load but that may have only addressed the pellet's tendancy to flip instead of slide down the ramp.

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RE: CFX or ???
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2008, 02:22:53 PM »
If the real cause of over rotation, which is  usually the actual problem about 95% of the time, this will probably not resolve the problem.  Also, most hardware store sell only 50 durometer o-rings, some maybe 60 durometewr and the should be 70 durometer.
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this is how i came up with this remedy.
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2008, 06:22:39 PM »
DISCLAIMER: this is garage-driveway airgun sugery. this is my own cure for the cfx's loading problem. works on my cfx's but don't blame me for any defects if you goof up.

I didn't even want to touch this part of the rifle but i just had to being a tinkerer and all. when ever i used any pellets (rws- superH/super sharps, beeman- crowmagnuns/silverstings/ramjets, jsb- predators), that were slightly longer or the squirts of the pellets were fleered more than the cheaper pellets(daisy, crosman, gamo), i would always have to nudge it in with my thumb nail or use a pen to push it in, usually distorting the squirt. plus after 100 pellets, thumb didn't feel so good. so i it took a close look at the breech and chamber hole oneday. not just that it(breech trough) doesn't align with the chamber hole when opened all the way, it's also slightly elevated from the hole. i figured if i shaved just 1mm off the trough's U-edge it would give me at least another 2mm of diameter space to play with.

i do a lot of rat shooting at night using a red beam spotlight or night vision scope. the spot light burn battery juice fast so its only good for 1 straight hour of use. so the scope is the other option, its easy to see the rodents through a scope but the pitch black of night makes it hard to distinguish wich way the pellet in between your fingers is facing after it has rolled in the trough becuase it didn't quite fit the hole and deflected off. this helped the pellet to go in the hole easier without it having to rub and be smashed while loading at a faster speed than the norm. plus it eliminated the need to always make sure that the breech must align with the hole because of the extra 2mm of space.

explaination of 2mm space gained with 1mm of honing off the trough. the trough is a U shape. it has two sides held together by an concave arch. each side is minus 1mm. thats 2mm total extra space across the trough. really its 3mm but the arch is for the trough to be leveled with the bottom of the loading chambers hole .


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RE: CFX or ???
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2008, 05:39:01 AM »
For the price of the CFX + turbo tune you could get BAM B40 which is a copy of TX-200. A very nice underlever cocking air rifle with roomy and functional loading port. I sold my CFX due to loading port problems and went with break barrell gamo but still I'm not entirely satisfied, those new models have kind of a plastic feel due to their barrell construction.
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