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Offline ikecorleone

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Trigger Spring?
« on: June 16, 2008, 02:32:53 PM »
Does anyone know where I can get a lighter trigger spring for a 2250???  I polished the articulating parts it seems a little smoother but I still have that HARSH trigger pull.


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RE: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2008, 02:47:21 PM »


Mike, you can over compress the spring, between your fingers and it will make a huge difference. Just squeeze it down, you may have to stretch it back out some, if you go to far, but it's a quick fix.



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Re: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2008, 03:02:25 PM »
WOW Mike!! I was gonna keep my trap shut this time!! IT WORKS!! Man Im glad someone else has had succsess with this method!! If you go too far the gun will not cock, pretty simple to re streatch it a tad. You can mess with it & get a pretty nice trigger,, Just ask TCups, he shot one of mine at the fun shoot. Thanks Mike, (Splash),, I feel vindicated now!! Tim.

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Re: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2008, 12:12:46 AM »


Tim, I'm just glad to see that I'm not the only "shade tree engineer"LOL. I've got my 2240 down to about 2.5lbs, with just a little squeeze.



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Re: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2008, 08:32:33 AM »
Thanks guys Im going to go give it a try, or shouldIi say a squeeze!


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RE: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2008, 10:52:51 AM »
ACE Hardware stores have a good selection of springs.  At least the ones in my area do.  I found a nice one for my 1377 there.  I ended up buying several because I didn't know which would work best when I got home (they're cheap).  I ended up using the lightest one I purchased, and cut it down to length with a pair of wire cutters (it was a little too long as supplied).

I made a spring guide out of a door hinge pin, also purchased at ACE.  If you get one of these, get the kind that doesn't have grooves on it.  I cut it to length with a plumbing tubing cutter (a hacksaw would have worked too) and filed the head of it way down in diameter by chucking it up in a drill and running it against a file.  The head is almost non-existent now, all that remains is a small shoulder to catch the spring.  I got it to the best length by trial and error.  I cut it too long intentionally, then iterated through installing it and filing it until I got the trigger to just barely release the sear and then stop. So the guide serves as a trigger stop too. There are lots of things at ACE you could use for a spring guide. Use your imagination. I bought some nylon spacers (about 1 inch long) but eventually decided on the hinge pin because of it's shoulder.

Two flat nylon washers (from ACE) sit on the sides of my trigger pivot pin now.  I had to sand one down a bit in thickness since two of them are just a little too thick.  Pick up some 400 and 600 grit sandpaper while at ACE - good for polishing the trigger and sear.  A small amount of grease too.  To finish up, I took the spring out of an old retractable ballpoint pin, cut it in half, and dropped it into the frame right above the front-top part of the trigger.  This spring, plus the two nylon washers, got rid of all my side-to-side and front-to-back trigger wobble.

Be sure and check your gun for safety after working on the trigger.  Cock it, without putting a pellet in, and shake it and bang it around (within reason!) to make sure it doesn't fire without you pulling the trigger.

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RE: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2008, 01:25:15 PM »
Haertig:

Any chance of a few pictures of the trigger job?  Thanks.

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RE: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2008, 02:20:35 PM »
I went the "sqeeze the spring" route as well on my 1377s (same grip frame as the 2250), but added a spring guide made from used .22lr ratshot shell.
The crimped style (I used one from Federal) shot shell is just the right length. It slips right into the spring and fits on the little nub that the spring fits over. I polished the base of the shell before installing it.

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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2008, 02:37:24 PM »
thanks.
mine is a plastic tube, cut from the cover of a sterile needle.  doesn't slip over the "nub".  slots cut in wood grips seem to keep things in line.  shoots OK but seems a little cheesy vs the polished metal solution.

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Re: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2008, 02:50:39 PM »
what a great idea with the .22 shell!!! would love to see pics of that door hinge jobber.


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Re: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2008, 03:00:23 PM »
Hey Splash,, for the money, & just good ole common sense,, Ya just cant beat "Shade Tree Engineering"!! LOL!! Thanks for the "Back Up" Buddy!! Lets see if ikecorleone  gives it a try?? Tim. P.S. Mike, you make some AWSOME grips, as a self proclaimed carpenter myself, I have great respect for your tallents!! Our paths will cross someday my friend. Tim.

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Re: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2008, 04:49:24 PM »
My door hinge jobber looks pretty much like that 22 shell jobber after I finished chopping it down to size and filing down the shoulder.  Almost identical (color too!)  The rim on that 22 shell is a tad shallower than my door hinge, but that's of no consequence.

[edit] p.s. - you can just barely see that ballpoint spring right there at the top front of the trigger (I slipped off the trigger shoe so you could see that better, but you can just barely see it anyway). [/edit]

[edit] p.p.s. - You may also notice that my replacement spring is a slightly bigger diameter than the original one.  That was on purpose, so that it "just barely" fits in place, with no side-to-side play.  There are more coils-per-inch than the original spring and the wire is much smaller gauge, so it's a much lighter spring.  The diameter of that door hinge is slightly bigger than the 22 shell too - it fits the slightly larger spring perfectly. [/edit]

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Re: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2008, 12:30:10 AM »


Your Welcome Tim and Thank You, for the compliment. You must have seen Gene's 1377, I had FUN with that one. I'm working on a few more now, but due to the weather and the fact that my shop, is set up on the back porch, haven't been able to get much done. All that's about to change though, the Boss gave me the OK to build a proper shop, so it's going up next week.



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Re: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2008, 07:45:32 AM »
Attached is a better picture of my door hinge job.  You can now see that ballpoint spring at the top-front of the trigger.  (And astute observers will also notice that my ball bearing on the safety spring has fallen out of place (damn!  that happens every time I open things up!)

[edit] Also, the nylon washer on the trigger pin is now visible.  There's a second washer on the other side of the trigger. [/edit]

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Re: Trigger Spring?
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2008, 12:36:40 PM »
How do you hold the ball point pen spring in place atop the trigger blade?  If you look closely at my trigger, you will see that I have carved out the upper end of the curve of the trigger blade.  I have big fingers and didn't like it cutting into the top of my index finger when my finger pad was on the fat part of the shoe.