Author Topic: Who's waiting on a Marauder? and why?  (Read 10749 times)

Offline Dave1899

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Serial Number 008 has arrived...
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2009, 08:19:04 AM »


...Too bad I have to wait for the pump still It sure is purdy though I think I'll just sit here and look at it for a while and then mount the scope. Haven't got one specifically for her yet so she'll start out with the Bushnell Banner



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RE: Serial Number 008 has arrived...
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2009, 08:25:48 AM »
Congratulations David  !!  

If you're this excited now just wait until you can actually air it up and spit pellets outa it  :)

Seriously though,,, congrats, I hope your pump arrives very soon..... I'm excited for ya buddy  :)   I'm already looking forward to your review....

In the meantime get out a new silicone cloth and give her a good rub down  :)

Jeff
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RE: Serial Number 008 has arrived...
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2009, 08:56:29 AM »
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longislandhunter - 5/11/2009 4:25 PM ...In the meantime get out a new silicone cloth and give her a good rub down :) Jeff
LOL...That's the first thing I did Jeff
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RE: Serial Number 008 has arrived...
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2009, 02:29:36 PM »
Dave

Take her down to your local Scuba shop with hose - Adapter in hand. maybe they'll give you a quickie.

Al
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RE: Who's waiting on a Marauder? and why?
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2009, 07:03:50 AM »
I was planning on getting one, but then I saw the Evanix S10 Blizzard in 0.22 and now I am very torn.

Anyone else in this delema?

Scott
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RE: Who's waiting on a Marauder? and why?
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2009, 11:37:03 AM »
I haven't really looked at the Blizzards specs...... can you make all the adjustments on the Blizzard that you can make on the Marauder ?????

Jeff
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Re: Who's waiting on a Marauder? and why?
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2009, 12:47:15 PM »
It's almost $200 more.

There's going to be a wicked aftermarket for the Marauder.   You can count on that.  There's going to be hop ups galore.

USA made means you can get any part from the factory.

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Re: Who's waiting on a Marauder? and why?
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2009, 01:38:53 PM »
All very good points......

Jeff
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RE: Who's waiting on a Marauder? and why?
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2009, 11:56:19 AM »
There appear to be a lot of similarities between the Blizzard and the Marauder. It would be interesting to see a side-by-side comparison of the two or a full review by the same person.

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Re: Who's waiting on a Marauder? and why?
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2009, 01:48:21 PM »
I have one comming. A .22 marauder have 4500 psi carbon fiber 110ci tank waiteing for big Mo to arive. dose anyone know how many top offs 1000-3000 I will get from this tank.have pball shop in my town that dose 4500+ psi. lucky. thank's in advance  21grains

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Re: Who's waiting on a Marauder? and why?
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2009, 12:01:00 PM »
Hi, Frank......curious how much you paid for your tank ??? I stopped at a dive shop 2 towns from me(Leicester), & they never heard of a tank that would charge above 3200psi. They almost fell over when I told them I could charge the gun to 3000psi with a hand pump. One of the guys kept tellin' me I was crazy..........don't think I'll go back there.......................Raoul

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Re: Who's waiting on a Marauder? and why?
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2009, 10:20:45 PM »
Alright, just a summary of what I have been able to ascertain from various posts and web sights so far about the 0.22 versions of these rifles:

Price:
Marauder: $500
S10 Blizzard: $660

Muzzle Energy:
Marauder Energy: 30 ft lbs
S10 Blizzard Energy: 45 ft lbs

Accuracy:
Marauder: same-hole out to 35 yards; subjective based on shooter ability
S10 Blizzard: same-hole out to 35 yards; subjective based on shooter ability

Noise:
If the reports that the Marauder is a 1 on a scale of 10, then the Blizzard seems to come in as a 2, slightly noisier, but about the same noise level as the AA S410 in 0.22

Power Adjustments/Fill Sweet Spot Info:

Marauder: high-pressure sweet spot is about 2800 Lbs on a 3000 Lb fill setting.  Setting can be changed to allow a fill pressure of 2000 Lbs with about a 30-shot string
S10 Blizzard: Rated at 200 bar or 2900 lbs, sweet spot seems to be at 2700 lbs with about a 35 shot string

Fill Port:
Marauder: Male Foster connector on end of reservoir
S10 Blizzard:  Fill probe port that accommodates a double o-ring fill probe - would require a male foster adapter to work with existing Female Foster high pressure pumps.

Tune-ability:  If the Marauder is anything like the Discovery, a little TLC and hammer weight polishing can flatten out the velocity curve over the range of shots, similar to the B51.  Unknown what could be done to the S10 Blizzard at this time.  I do note that based on other posts, the S10 has a somewhat chopy velocity curve, but tends to stay within 15 fps of the mean velocity over its shot range.

Blizzard is a longer rifle with a longer trigger pull length than the Marauder, trigger on the Blizzard is not adjustable for pull force and rates in at about 2# trigger is adjustable for length of pull.  Neither rifle comes with iron sights and a scope must be installed.

All said and done, if you want to hunt with one of these guns at and beyond 50-yards, the S10 blizzard is probably the way to go.  Under 50-yards and the Marauder hits the price/performance sweet spot.

Comments appreciated - I am still trying to decide which one to get.

One initial story I heard is that one person had to go through two S10 Blizzards, with a call to Pyramid on the third to get one where all of the screws wre tightened properly.  Once the third one arrived however, nothing but great comments as to its power and accuracy.

Scott In Harwood, MD

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Re: Who's waiting on a Marauder? and why?
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2009, 01:14:54 AM »
The Pyramid site appears to rate both guns about the same loudness and claims the trigger is adjustable on the Blizzard ?

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OK, so now I am really torn on a Marauder or something else...
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2009, 05:10:53 AM »
As for teh Evanix trigger, its adjustable, but not for weight of pull if I recall - two pounds is OK as long as it is smooth and crisp.

Heck, since I started looking at new PCP's again, I am now looking at four rifles:

Benjamin Marauder in 0.22
Evanix S10 Blizzard, Side Lever, in 0.22
BSA Super Ten MK3 in 0.22
Hammerli Pneuma   in 0.22

Oh darn, may as well admit it, I am also looking at the Air Arms S410ERB side lever too!

Since I got a compressor, I got a bad case of PCP fever that needs a medicinal dose of a new PCP to alleviate it; I only have three of them now; a tuned Disco in 0.22, and tuned B51 in 0.177 and an older Air Arms S400 in 0.177.  I am still leaning to the Evanix, assuming I can get a good one, since it has nearly 45 ft-lbs of energy out of the muzzle, versus about 30 ft-lbs for the other ones I mentioned above.

Heeeelllllllppppppppp (me spend my money)!

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Re: Who's waiting on a Marauder? and why?
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2009, 05:38:20 AM »
How are you going to use that extra 20 ftlbs?

Are you really going to shoot live animals beyond 50 yards? With any airgun I think that's a bit questionable.  

Honestly, at some point, it's just time to move to a .22 rifle, no an airgun. Airguns have their uses and some overlap with rifles but really... for me when I start looking for more than about 30# it's just time to get a .22.

Plus, no pumping.

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