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Re: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2009, 03:02:00 AM »
Yes these guns have a big power plant on them thats why I bought the gun in the first place. The Daisy/Winchester guns are well made.

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Re: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2009, 03:54:48 AM »
I have the Daisy synthetic stocked rifle as well as the Winchester wood stocked rifle and both were made in Turkey........  

Both of them are real tack drivers and hammers  :)

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RE: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2009, 04:33:11 AM »
I've had one of these (Turkish build) for three years and just started shooting it again this past week. It is just as powerful now as it was when my wife hid it from me three years ago. And just as accurate too. Where can I find info for trigger and other mods. I tried doing a search but had no luck. Has anyone considered trying to do a Crosman Nitro Piston conversion on this gun?

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RE: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2009, 04:39:58 AM »
Just curious, anyone else have the 'tight' breech issue on their Hatsan versions, or I'm wondering if it's just specific to the Chinese one. Does anyone else have this Chinese version yet...if so, please chime in?!?! I'd like to hear what you think...

Edit: I'm also curious to know if this powerplant is used in any other Chinese AG's, or is it just a direct copy of the Hatsan poweplant??? Too many ???'s-LOL!!
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RE: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2009, 04:45:27 AM »


Check out the RSE web site for guides on the Daisy/Powerline/Winchester 1000. Thanks to Russ for making these available.



http://webpages.charter.net/guru1/documents/index.html

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RE: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2009, 04:53:49 AM »
I Found the pdf below that gives some good info about this rifle.

http://webpages.charter.net/guru1/documents/Daisy_Winchester%20tear-down%20guide%202.0.pdf

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RE: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2009, 05:06:12 AM »
Is this rifle any good? I noticed that Airgun Depot has them on sale for $85. Is it worth it?

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RE: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2009, 05:51:54 AM »
I had one of the Turkish Powerlines and tossed it out when I got an Air Hawk. The Hawk is about the same price, hits almost as hard, just as accurate, has a good trigger, is very easy to work on and spare parts are readily available.

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Re: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2009, 06:40:19 AM »
Are you talking about the breech being to tight for pellets to fit? if so you can take some fine emery cloth and open it up doesn't take much to it,just go at it slow.

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RE: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2009, 09:31:45 AM »
Well, I just spoke w/a rep at AirgunDepot, and they said that the Daisy Powerline 1000 has been manufactured in China for at least 5 yrs. now (odd, see comments from Daisy rep below). I also spoke w/a rep at Pyramid Air and they don't carry the Daisy's but they do carry the Winchester's and they said that the Winchester's are manufactured in Turkey. Weird how Daisy sells both, and they appear to be the same gun, but one is manufactured in China and the other in Turkey...I'm not really sure at this point if one is better than the other???

Edit: A little more info. for anyone that's interested...also spoke w/a Daisy rep, and although they couldn't (or wouldn't) tell me why production was switched from Turkey to China, they did say that the Chinese version has to maintain at least the same quality/performance as the ones made in Turkey. So, apparently the one that I received is the brand new Chinese version...she actually sounded surprised to know that I had one...hhmmm??? She also said that eventually the Winchester branded ones will be manufactured in China as well...very interesting. Wonder if Daisy is simply cutting manufacturing costs or is moving production to China for other reasons???
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RE: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2009, 10:09:25 AM »
I have 2 Winchester .22 springers , #1  model 435  30yrs old made in Germany by Diana Work model 35  #2 model 1000 2yrs old made in Turkey by  Hatsan worst trigger ever!!  Hurts My  finger every time I shoot it. 1000fps  Bull Sh!%   800fps w/ 7.9 cpl  Jest My 2 cents  Franky

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RE: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2009, 11:17:24 AM »
Figures now that Hatsans are going to get a nice trigger their dropping them..LOL
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Re: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2009, 11:48:58 AM »


Just wondering,..are the trigger groups the same on both the Turkish and Chinese rifles? Also,...if you are shooting 7.9's and not going faster than 900 fps,...your rifle has some issues to deal with. Most likely a burnt piston seal (vapor emitting from the cocking slot in the stock,...or a broken spring. The piston in my Turkish PL1K is big and heavy,....include a generous sized top hat only adds insult to injury!!! Last time I checked, I was shooting 940's to 960's with JSB Exacts 8.3's. This being custom tuned by myself. Nice to see some renewed interest with these shooters!!!!! tjk



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Re: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2009, 01:20:34 PM »
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Just wondering,..are the trigger groups the same on both the Turkish and Chinese rifles? Also,...if you are shooting 7.9's and not going faster than 900 fps,...your rifle has some issues to deal with. Most likely a burnt piston seal (vapor emitting from the cocking slot in the stock,...or a broken spring. The piston in my Turkish PL1K is big and heavy,....include a generous sized top hat only adds insult to injury!!! Last time I checked, I was shooting 940's to 960's with JSB Exacts 8.3's. This being custom tuned by myself. Nice to see some renewed interest with these shooters!!!!! tjk





Nice looking shooters!! Hey, is that the original scope on the Daisy, and how is it holding up??? I don't have anything to compare the trigger in the Chinese Daisy too...but I can say that both the trigger and guard are some sort of plastic/synthetic material and that it is easily 7+ lbs. as far as pull wt. I would imagine that Diasy simply turned the blueprints for the Turkish guns over to the Chinese and I'm sure that they (probably) faithfully reproduced the trigger group as well. It definitely needs work!! What parts did you use and what else did you do to tune yours???
Current springers:FWB 124(.177),Gammo 440(.177),RWS 94(.177),BSA Lightning XL(.177),Daisy 1000ws(.177),Gamo 1250 custom(.20),Theoben Eliminator(.20),???

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Re: Daisy Powerline/Winchester 1000's...Made in China???
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2009, 01:32:55 PM »
tjk Sorrry Went back and looked  I used 10.5  cpheavy Sorrrry my bad, Memorey anyway. how's Your "trigger" Mine su@%s but it shoots faster now.   Franky