New Daisy 25 tear down

[joe-joe guns]

I took some time today to tear down and tune up a New Model 25.Enjoy.

[Bogey]

A lot more complicated than I imagined.   No wonder when I was a kid a broke Daisy 25 remained a broke Daisy 25. Or anyother AG for that matter.

Good instructional pictorial.  You got my attention.  Good Going.

[SDale]

How does she shoot now? Did it pick up any power?

[joe-joe guns]

I'm finally getting a chrony.It should be here by the end of the week.I was waiting to get it before I put this up but I had some time this weekend so I got dirty.I have a stock 25 still in the box to benchmark,I know every gun is different but between that one and the other numbers I've found on the web I should get a good idea if the washers for pre-load helped out.From what I've found people are getting between 320 and 340 fps depending on the bb's used.I'm going to test Daisy,Crosman and RWS match grade bb's.Stay tuned.

[airiscool]

Great job with the pix.

The gun looks great. Wish my old one looked as good. Santa came through with other stuff I needed so I'll get a new one later.  

You may find your chrony has trouble getting a read on the BB's.   My F-1 Shooting Chrony won't read  shiny copper heads  on a sunny day. Even with the sky screens on.   I had to dig out some older, darker, tarnished BB's to get them to read.

I put the chrony out to remember to see what the old 25 will do tomorrow.

Paul.

[LARRYPIRRONE]

what is the total thicknss of the brass washers?  are you maxed out?  i wonder if there is potential for other springs to be installed?  did yu notice any diference in the feel of the firing cycle?

[RedFeather]

Welcome, Larry! Now you is the newbie. (Just kidding.) I think you'll find this a right nice forum.

[davevabch]

Great pics. Do you have any chrony results?

Dave@vabch

[Magnum]

A really nice mod25 and with the gold bling, I had not seen that before and great tune with pics too:)  I thought they stopped making them in the mid 80's.  Tony.

[airiscool]

They started again.

I can't even find it on Daisy's website.

Ran a string with my old 25 this morning. Note; this was bought new by my grandfather back in the early 1920's. He used it, then my uncle, then handed down to my two older brothers, then to me when I was about 6-7 years old. I shot hundreds of BB's through it just about every week into my mid teens when I was given a 22LR. I shot it so much that I wore the BB retaining dent out of the bend in the end of the magazine tube thus making it into a single shot.

It hasn't been oiled in probably more than 25 years.

Anyway, here's the chrony results for what they are worth. Copperhead BB's are all I have so that's what I used.
1. 201.3
2. 202.5
3. 202.8
4. 201.5
5. 201.5
6. 198.1
7. 205.7
8. 206.5
9. 209.3
10. 211.8
11. 212.9
12. 217.7

As you can see, the numbers started climbing the last half of the string. Probably as the gun loosened up after sitting for a year since last shot. Going to oil it and shoot another string.

Paul.

[LARRYPIRRONE]

it will probably speed up quite a bit with a little oil in the mechanism. i suspect it may have had a leather seal as well. may be in bad shape.  my new one is getting around 320 fps average with a low of 312 and a high of 320. thats new and not broken in yet. some of the older once from long ago hit 375.

[airiscool]

"...........some of the older once from long ago hit 375. ......"

LOL, they don't get much older than this one !!!

I hope it does pick up some speed, but this things been shot so much that the BB's rattle down the barrel.  I know I've put somewhere around 80,000 through it in the 50 years I've had it. I wouldn't be surprised that the total from the whole family's use is well over 100,000.

I may have to 'patch' the BB's like they do when shooting a musket !!!

Paul.

[LARRYPIRRONE]

from what i understand the new guns barrel will fit old guns. fixing the rest if it might be a little more complicated. i have no idea where you would go. maybe daisy woulddo it.

[airiscool]

Other than oil, clean, I'll leave this one alone now that new ones are available.

Besides, rebuilding this one would probably cost more than buying a new one and just lower the value of this one. I'd rather get a new one to have as an everyday shooter.

I was approched by a collector several years ago when he learned how old it is. I told him it's shot out and hardly any bluing left on it. He said he'd still would like to see it and make an offer. Told him it was my Grampa's and Lord willing, it will belong to a grandson of mine someday after I get done teaching him how to shoot.  And if I get a new one, we'll have two, then it'll be twice the fun !!!!

Paul.

[davevabch]

Have you ever torn down your Red Ryder?
dave